Holy steps in Rome claims to have blood stains of Jesus
Nine years shorter in Purgatory. Thats what Catholics get for
each step they climb on their knees in a Vatican staircase, claimed to
have been transported to Rome from Jerusalem.
The so-called «Sacred Steps» in Rome is supposed to be the
staircase from Pontius Pilate’s mansion, on which the Catholics are told
Christ was made to walk on his knees, carrying the cross.
People still walk on their knees on those 30 odd steps as a mark of Jesus’ sacrifice for mankind. And there are 4 places on the stairs that are encased in gold-framed glass, supposed to be places where drops of Jesus’ blood fell.
How Pilate’s staircase came to Rome?
Helen, the mother of Emperor Constantine, brought it from wherever she might have found it.
In the Catholic Church, plenary indulgence can be granted for climbing the stairs on the knees. Pius VII on 2 September 1817 granted those who ascend the stairs in the prescribed manner an indulgence of nine years for every step. Finally Pius X, on 26 February 1908, granted a plenary indulgence to be gained as often as the stairs are devoutly ascended after confession and communion.
Not a few popes are recorded to have performed this pious exercise; Pius IX, who in 1853 entrusted the Passionist Fathers with the care of the sanctuary, ascended the Holy Stairs on 19 September 1870, the eve of the entrance of the Piedmontese into Rome.
There are replicas (holy copies) of these Holy Stairs at Lourdes, France; St. Anne de Beaupre, Canada; Tytuvenia, Lithuania; Abruzzi, Italy; Nasonville, Rhode Island and at St. Patrick’s.
My comment:
First:
There is no words in the Bible, about Jesus being dragged in a staircase in the Governor`s palace in Jerusalem. And if there ever was such a staircase, how did it end up as a pagan Roman Queens possession, more than 300 years after the life of Jesus?
Second:
And if there were blood in this staircase, how did anyone come to know if the blood was of Jesus? No one had His DNA-profile.
Since Pilate washed his hands of Jesus, would it not be reasonable, that someone would have cleaned up the mess in the staircase?
Third:
Frankly, it is more than unlikely that the Governor would make his presumed blood stained staircase into a «Museum» for a Jew the Jewish crowed wanted to get rid off, and the Roman soldiers crucified.
Forth:
In Mathew 28 you can read how the chief priests and the Jewish elders tried their best to blot out any traces and evidences of a risen Messiah, a cover-up that was supposed to have pleased Pilate.
Fifth:
How do you transport a staircase? I guess it must have been difficult to demolish? Was the building also demolished, and a proper copy of the castle built in Rome, to fit the staircase?
Six:
Jesus did not redeem mankind in the presence of Pilate, and any penance in such a staircase that will redeem the dead Catholics from «purgatory» is not-Biblical non sense.
The Vatican is cheating. The pagans claimed to be «Christians» has built a religion around a copy-cat Jesus, and religious rituals based on fabricated stories that perverts the truth.
Catholics who have believed the lies, perform religious rituals at the «Sacred Steps» in Rome.
People still walk on their knees on those 30 odd steps as a mark of Jesus’ sacrifice for mankind. And there are 4 places on the stairs that are encased in gold-framed glass, supposed to be places where drops of Jesus’ blood fell.
How Pilate’s staircase came to Rome?
Helen, the mother of Emperor Constantine, brought it from wherever she might have found it.
In the Catholic Church, plenary indulgence can be granted for climbing the stairs on the knees. Pius VII on 2 September 1817 granted those who ascend the stairs in the prescribed manner an indulgence of nine years for every step. Finally Pius X, on 26 February 1908, granted a plenary indulgence to be gained as often as the stairs are devoutly ascended after confession and communion.
Not a few popes are recorded to have performed this pious exercise; Pius IX, who in 1853 entrusted the Passionist Fathers with the care of the sanctuary, ascended the Holy Stairs on 19 September 1870, the eve of the entrance of the Piedmontese into Rome.
There are replicas (holy copies) of these Holy Stairs at Lourdes, France; St. Anne de Beaupre, Canada; Tytuvenia, Lithuania; Abruzzi, Italy; Nasonville, Rhode Island and at St. Patrick’s.
My comment:
First:
There is no words in the Bible, about Jesus being dragged in a staircase in the Governor`s palace in Jerusalem. And if there ever was such a staircase, how did it end up as a pagan Roman Queens possession, more than 300 years after the life of Jesus?
Second:
And if there were blood in this staircase, how did anyone come to know if the blood was of Jesus? No one had His DNA-profile.
Since Pilate washed his hands of Jesus, would it not be reasonable, that someone would have cleaned up the mess in the staircase?
Third:
Frankly, it is more than unlikely that the Governor would make his presumed blood stained staircase into a «Museum» for a Jew the Jewish crowed wanted to get rid off, and the Roman soldiers crucified.
Forth:
In Mathew 28 you can read how the chief priests and the Jewish elders tried their best to blot out any traces and evidences of a risen Messiah, a cover-up that was supposed to have pleased Pilate.
Fifth:
How do you transport a staircase? I guess it must have been difficult to demolish? Was the building also demolished, and a proper copy of the castle built in Rome, to fit the staircase?
Six:
Jesus did not redeem mankind in the presence of Pilate, and any penance in such a staircase that will redeem the dead Catholics from «purgatory» is not-Biblical non sense.
The Vatican is cheating. The pagans claimed to be «Christians» has built a religion around a copy-cat Jesus, and religious rituals based on fabricated stories that perverts the truth.
Shalom and Praise The LORD JESUS CHRIST.
One thing everyone should never forget in their life time is that “IT IS NOT BY WORKS, BY GRACE WE ARE SAVED”
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Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Rom 4:3 For what saith the Scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Rom 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Tit 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Savior toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior;
Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
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I am leaving for rome italy may 4th and do indeed climb up every step on my knees. the people who chose to deny saint helena,I shall pray for them.
God Bless you my friend.
love to all
tony
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
This staircase in Rome is religious fraud. I hope and pray that the Catholics will open their eyes, and find Jesus from Nazareth. Amen.
I suggest that you bone up on your history of Rome. They were a society who built buildings and ect. that even our so called brilliant people cannot figure out.today.
God Bless you mr. diamond,
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
The real issue is Rome it self. Why, and when did God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob changed his mind, and moved from Jerusalem to the Vatican?
2 Kings 21:7
He took the carved Asherah pole he had made and put it in the temple, of which the LORD had said to David and to his son Solomon, “In this temple and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, I will put my Name forever.
1 Chronicles 23:25
For David had said, “Since the LORD, the God of Israel, has granted rest to his people and has come to dwell in Jerusalem forever,
2 Chronicles 33:4
He built altars in the temple of the LORD, of which the LORD had said, “My Name will remain in Jerusalem forever.”
Psalm 125:2
As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the LORD surrounds his people both now and forevermore.
Joel 3:20
Judah will be inhabited forever and Jerusalem through all generations.
The Pope and his children, has created their own religion with a “Jesus” copy in the center. Made their own temple in a pagan city, and claim that their leader is “The Holy father”.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
You wrote:
Even if it is just a symbol, it is a replication of the most immense sacrifice ever made, so what arguments against it could really be legitament???????????
My comment:
The truth is not a symbol. The truth is the truth. Since the story of the “Holy steps” in Rome is based on lies, it has no value for the Kingdom of God.
The truth is not your truth. What you believe does not mean you are right or wrong. You don’t believe in Christ as the only Son of God. I respect that. But don’t try to convince me that Christ is a fraud as Jewish did more than 2000 years ago. On that time they were affraid of losing the power. How come after everything He did we still have people like you, question Him? I don’t need your answer. As I said I respect your believes and you should do the same to anyone else. Your answer will be requested when you will be in front of the Father. So, leave your life with love, justice. And caring for others. No matter what they are or believe. We are all son of one God.
God bless you.
They should remember always that the scriptures are Catholic and the true faith is Catholic and until they realize their faith is based on a man (Martin Luther)and not Christ they will return to the only true faith and quit bashing everything Catholic.
Us Catholics love our traditions including our sacred steps.
Shalom., and welcome to this site.
You wrote:
They should remember always that the scriptures are Catholic and the true faith is Catholic.
My reply:
This is a very common misunderstanding. The Bible is a 3.000 year old book. The scriptures was written in Hebrew and Aramaic, not Latin. The Jewish Cannon was completed 1.500 years before there was a Roman Catholic Church, with its center in pagan Rome.
The Bible was there when Jesus walked the earth. He taught from the Torah in the synagogues. The New testament is basically a confirmation of the Old Testament, where Jesus confirms the scriptures.
When the New Testament cannon was put together and closed, the Roman Catholic Church did not control the Christian World. In 325 A.D there were multiple synods in the Middle East that did not accept the Bishop of Rome as anything but a puppet for the Emperor of Rome.
Please read history.
The Roman Catholic Church captured and lead Western Christianity astray from around 500 A.D. Slowly the idol worshipers lead the whole Europe into the dark ages. But there has always been a Church of true Messianic Baptists, that rejects the falsehood of Rome. People who serve Lord Jesus of the Bible, with all their heart, soul and strength.
“The Jewish Cannon was completed 1.500 years before there was a Roman Catholic Church, with its center in pagan Rome.”
I’m really sorry to say this so bluntly, but this is breathtaking ignorance. At least get the millennium right if you can’t get the century.
very well said,I love my protestant friend as God wants us too.But I get tired of the hacking on my catholic faith.
Kindly, sharon wilder
The keys to the Church were given to St. Peter, where the
Holy Father remains – Rome!
God Bless You!
Catherine
The keys to the church were never given to Peter. Jesus Christ built his church, and Peter recogonized Jesu And the “holy father” is a liar and a sinner, who need Jesus Christ to be saved.
Jesus, who knew the heart of Peter, was not saying that Peter, the movable and unstable stone, would be the immovable rock upon which the Church would be built. Rather, it would be built upon Jesus and it was this truth that Peter had affirmed what he said to Jesus, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God,” (Matt. 16:16)
It doesn’t matter if you believe it or not Catherine, it still is the truth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_Sancta
The Scala Sancta (English: Holy Stairs, Italian: Scala Santa) are, according to the Christian tradition, the steps that led up to the praetorium of Pontius Pilate in Jerusalem, which Jesus Christ stood on during his Passion on his way to trial.[1] The stairs were, reputedly, brought to Rome by St. Helena in the 4th Century. For centuries, the Scala Santa has attracted Christian pilgrims who wished to honor the Passion of Jesus.
It consists of twenty-eight white marble steps, now encased by wooden steps, located in a building which incorporates part of the old Lateran Palace, located opposite the Basilica of Saint John Lateran. They are located next to a church which was built on ground brought from Mount Calvary. The stairs lead to the Sancta Sanctorum (English: Holy of Holies), the personal chapel of the early Popes in the Lateran palace, known as the chapel of St. Lawrence.
Shalom.
I have spammed a couple of your messages. They were very long.
I do not permit papal teaching papers to be published on this site. The comment field is meant to used as a debate field.
Please makes short comments, and follow the debate at the concerned article.
In regards to the “Holy steps” in Rome, I do not have to explain an article in Wikipedia. My article is my case to counter the falsehood invented by Rome. You are free to ask questions linked to my article.
Plus another fact is that a praetorium in the Roman Empire before there was Christianity had stairs to see the riegning governor of the region they rule!!!! Do your RESEARCH!!!!!!!! This is the most ANTI-CATHOLIC and unchristain blog site! I am not Catholic, but I am Eastern Orthodox which 99.9% close to Catholicism, just we don’t have a Pope!! So, am I a False follower of Christianity!
In the Bible:
2 Thess 2:15: “Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a letter from us.”
Phil 4:9: “Keep on doing what you have learned and received and HEARD and SEEN IN ME. Then the God of peace will be with you.”
1 Corinth 11:2: “I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the Traditions, just as I handed them on to you.”
2 Thess 3:6: “We instruct you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to shun any brother who conducts himself in a disorderly way and not according to the TRADITION they received from us.”
1 Peter 1:25: “…but the Word of the Lord REMAINS FOREVER. This is the Word that has been PROCLAIMED TO YOU (i.e., orally).”
No where in the Bible does it say Scripture ALONE or Sole Authority!! Show me where it says that compared to these scripture passages prove it!
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
And yet Jesus passes his sole authority and command to his disciples!! Jesus is sole authority and pass on to those on earth who are his disciples and led by Peter as head of the disciples! Plus your comment still does not explain how the Bible is a sole authority since the Bible was not a book until 5th century. Before that was just word of mouth or orally passed on…..which TRADITION!! Explain that……..
All authority is given to Messiah’s followers as the Body of Messiah–the Church wherein resides the Holy Spirit (see John 14:16-18). Jesus said that we would be given the Holy Spirit (and it is implied that through the Holy Spirit He would be with us to the end of the age–since He is not now with us in bodily form.) The Apostle Paul teaches in Romans 8:9 that if one does not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, one is simply NOT a Christian–not part of the Body. It is the Holy Spirit who will guide us into all truth by use of the word that He inspired. (see John 17:17) Those who are not part of the Body have no authority, in this age, to teach anything as coming from G-d. On the other hand, this authority is granted to ALL who follow the truth as presented by the Spirit of Truth (remember, He is there to guide us into all truth–John even teaches in 1 John 2:27 that we have no need of earthly teachers because we have the Holy Spirit). Do not trust what men say–go to the Scriptures yourself and search out these things! That is why we believe in Sola Scriptura and so should you.
RCC theology is so messed up and the proof of that statement is to observe the acts and the corruption of the RCC down through the centuries. Yeshua observed in Matthew 7:15-20 that we will be known as true believers by our acts.
If you’d like to leave a decent comment, respectfully disagreeing that is fine.
If you do leave a filthy comment, you will be spammed from this site.
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
Remains a hollow dictum
Unless we believe
God is just
Trusting fully in doing what is just
May we only claim in God we trust.
What a load of hogwash!
Give me YHVH God’s Word/Torah any time.
Thanks for the insight, Ivar, someone who really knows where the Truth is.
What a very sad scenario these graphic pictures show.
I like my logo, Black & white that’s me, no grey area’s.
you might open your mind and do a little research about pilgrimages. You might be surprised to find that pilgrimages are actually mentioned both in the Old Testament and the New. You might also be surprised, if you read your bible carefully and COMPLETELY, which evangelicals don’t actually do, that lots of things you call mumbo jumbo are actually found in Scripture.
With you, it seems, a little prejudice is a dangerous thing.
E eu te darei as chaves do reino dos céus; e tudo o que ligares na terra será ligado nos céus, e tudo o que desligares na terra será desligado nos céus.
Mateus 16:18
Pedro assim se tornou o primeiro papa da igreja catolica.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Well, your sister could also make a pilgrimage to Lourdes in France, the miraculous fountain drink.
My comment:
I will have to spam you, if you continue to write in Portuguese. This is a site where English has to be used. I would like to communicate with you in English.
We should need no props to “worship the Lord alone”. I pointed out to you a genuine item (the bronze snake) that Hezekiah destroyed because the people were “venerating” it (read worshiping it). God IS the judge and He has given us His word to “straighten us out”. (see 2 Timothy 3:16) The Hebraic and early Christian mindset would be that these stairs represent rank idolatry.
What does it matter if they are authentic or not??? (The bronze snake that Hezekiah destroyed was surely authentic.) It is still idolatry to ascribe spiritual power to them–remember, Catholics say that climbing them is supposed to knock off time in purgatory? Purgatory is itself a totally un-Biblical concept that is a construct of the RCC (and one strongly suspects that it was made up in order to sell indulgences). The notion that we must work off sin in purgatory (or have our relatives buy our way out of it by buying an indulgence) totally undercuts the teaching of the free gift of salvation. Purgatory is a doctrine of demons.
I don’t remember getting “riled” with Ivar over anything?
Shalom.
Do you have to go to Paris to know it exists?
What is a saint? According to scripture every believer is a saint. Not a dead person that performs miracles.
Sharon, why do you feel you need to climb the stairs on your knees?
Actually it basically comes down to this:
John 8:24 – “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM He, you will die in your sins.”
Such a powerful verses to say what Jesus is. He died for my sins and yours Elle, and to believe that “other beliefs” would make the world a better place if we respect them is a lie.
A world without Jesus is doomed. A sinner without Jesus is doomed. Pick up the Word of God. It is the truth from beginning to end, and it goes for all sinners alike, if you do not accept Jesus, do not accept he died for your sins, do not accept that he is HE, then you are simply doomed. It is with love that Christians say this, because an eternal hell is a horrible place.
Isaiah 43:10,11 – “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
(It would be great if there was no more name calling here.)
Accept Jesus Christ as their savior, read the scriptures and learn to understand them and live their life to become a servant for Jesus Christ. In Jesus name, pray and give praise to God everyday, repent and ask for His forgiveness of sin, and ask for His guidance to become a better Christian for Jesus Christ.
After this round, you get the much needed expertise in needed arenas.
Mauresmo is a two-time grand slam singles champion, winning a unanimous decision.
Sun god worship and the mark of the beast
March 20, 2012The symbol of the sun “god” is found on the US dollar bill. You can not buy or sell anything without a grand or two. Earlier the US dollar reflected the value of the US gold reserves in Forth Knox.
Hitler had a Sun god symbol on his uniform cap
March 20, 2012Roman Catholic Adolf Hitler placed two marks on the uniform cap on all his officers.
Lets take a close up look at Hitlers cap:
The symbol in Hitlers cap and the “wafer Messiah” placed in a monstrance is one and the same.
Keeping this in mind, I took a look at the marks Hitler placed on the cap of all German Nazi-officers. There is a lot of “crosses”. But one mistakenly looks like the Roman Catholic symbol of the sun, worshiped in the name of “Christ”.
The two Nazi cap symbols are the symbols of death and the beast. They are both used in the book of Revelation to explain the army of horror that will led people into the trap of Satan. And significant: The Nazis and their allied Japan captured about a fourth of the Globe.
He claimed to represent God, and wanted to build the 1000 years millennium kingdom on Earth. Hitler prophesied victory over evil (the Jews), and promised to bring peace to Europe and the World. Many Kings supported him, in particular in the Catholic and Islamic World. The same Kingdoms who now tries to deny or fight the return of the Messiah, our King and Judge.
The beast who brought the false Nazi-prophet to power was the ruler in the Vatican. The false prophet perished, and the best got fatally wounded. But the beast is not dead. It will serve Lucifer and his final antichrist to the very end of the age.
Written by Ivar