Thursday, 19 September 2013

Roman Catholicism and the worship of the dead XIII: Catholic chapel with rotten man and child hanging from chains

Catholic chapel with rotten man and child hanging from chains

http://ivarfjeld.com/2013/08/27/catholic-chapel-with-rotten-man-child-hanging-from-chains/  

Vatican priests who have done this have blood on their hands and a heart of stone.

This chapel is made by a priesthood of perverts with a Pope as their leader.
This image is taken from Capela dos Ossos in Portugal. This Holy Roman Catholic site is located in the city of Évora 130 kilometer south of Lisbon. In plain English “Capela dos Ossos”  should be translated Chapel of Bones.  The Chapel is located next to the entrance of the Church of St. Francis.

The dead Messiah of Rome hanging on the wall among skulls and bones.
At the entrance of the Capela dos Ossos it is written in Portuguese:  Nós ossos que aqui estamos pelos vossos esperamos (“We bones, lying here bare, are awaiting your’s).

The walls of this chapel is strengthen with thousands of human bones and skulls.
Revelation 17:6
I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.
The chapel holds 5.000 skeletons. Some of these skulls have been scribbled with graffiti. Two desiccated corpses, one of which is a child, dangle from a chain.

A Roman Catholic Church in Portugal with priests and parishioners headed for the eternal flames of Hell.

Skulls immersed in cement, looking down from the walls.

This is not Halloween or an image from a horror movie. This is a Vatican approved chapel.
You have to have a heart of stone to be able to create such a Chapel of horror. There are a few Bible verses that can express the final destiny for all who have contributed to the building of this “Holy site”, and all the Pope’s who have not got this chapel eradicated from the face of the Earth.
Revelation 20:15
If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

The roof of this religious site is decorated with skulls.
You can simply not build such an abnormal house of horror, and expect to be forgiven and even for a second think about being granted access to the Kingdom of Heaven. If this in not an eternal, not forgivable mortal sin against the Holy Spirit, than nothing possible can be.
Father God must be wiping blood when he sees how this child is hanging, treated like an animal inside a claimed to be Church. How can man pervert him self, and fall into such a pitiful low condition?
And keep this for display, for Papal approved adoration and veneration?
Now kept for hundreds of years?
If this Vatican site of vulgarity and insanity of inexpressible proposition is not an act of Satan, than nothing can ever be.

A cruel, Satanic and horribly insane site of evil made by people who call them selves “Christians”
Jezebel was eaten by dogs. I still feel that is a to mild punishment for the people who call this chapel a “Holy”site.
Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.
That seems to be a more reasonable response from Heaven, to penalize these criminals.
If it is still not possible to convince you that the Pope of Rome is Lucifer’s High priest on Earth, there is probably nothing I can do to open your eyes. As a papist, you will also eventually end up in the same place as Him.
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

96 Responses to Catholic chapel with rotten man and child hanging from chains

  1. Gloria says:
    Ivar,
    These photos show how deep the Catholic’s obsession over bones is. It’s equally as disturbing that so many pray to these and kiss them. It is true when you say: “Pope of Rome is Lucifer’s High priest on Earth.”
    I pray to Christ that this exposing of Catholism opens up the eyes of those that believe in this.
    • Joan Rogers says:
      I have always said,it is the synagogue of Satan.But,Bones are nothing they look to the dead rather then God.So I am not at all suprised at these photos.THey pray for the dead and pray to the dead,so this is exactly what to expect.Does not God turn them over to their own gods?
  2. Melanie says:
    What I would like to know is where did all of these bones come from? They can’t all be saints !
    How on this earth is this allowed to happen.? These photos are so shocking they defy all understanding of all that is humane in this world.
    Something tells me these especially the adult and child bones- may be martyrs?
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Melanie
      Shalom, and thanks for this comment.
      I know there are Catholics reading this blog. But I guess they also are speechless. Your question is valid: How could this be allowed to happen?
      Can someone who still believe that the pope is the “Holy father” please give an explanation?
      • Joan Rogers says:
        Catholicism is a Pagan Idolaterous Religion.THe things they di are not at all commanded of God,They changed God’s 10 commandments,they pervert the Word of God.THey are brain washed into that religion from an infant,and they know no better.
      • well this is just an art.. it is made to symbolize that we praise God and will go w/ him after death.. we should not be afraid of death cause death is the beginning of a new life w/ God..
    • Jes says:
      Holy pope? and/or Holy father? my foot!
      I would say their term of “holy” as HOKEY and the “pope” as POKEY. It’s all ‘CRAP’ – the word holy should be used only on the GOD OF ISRAEL, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH and NO ONE else is HOLY (period). These vultures do not deserve this word HOLY they are blaspheming it.
      Here are some highlights of Hokey Pokey or Hucus Pocus:
      :::::::::The Oxford English Dictionary suggests that the phrase “hokey cokey” ultimately comes from “hocus pocus”, the traditional magician’s incantation. However, the dictionary discounts suggestions that “hocus pocus” in its turn derives from a distortion of HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEUM (“this is my body” – the Latin words of consecration of the host at Eucharist, the point, at which according to traditional Catholic practice, transubstantiation takes place – mocked by Puritan and others as a form of “magic words”), noting that “The notion that hocus pocus was a parody of the Latin words used in the Eucharist, rests merely on a conjecture thrown out by Tillotson”. The conjecture put forward by Tillotson reads “In all probability those common juggling words of hocus pocus are nothing else but a corruption of hoc est corpus, by way of ridiculous imitation of the priests of the Church of Rome in their trick of Transubstantiation”. The Anglican Canon Matthew Damon, Provost of Wakefield Cathedral, West Yorkshire, has claimed that the dance as well comes from the Catholic Latin mass. The priest would perform his movements with his back to the congregation, who could not hear well the words, nor understand the Latin, nor clearly see his movements. This theory led Scottish politician Michael Matheson in 2008 to urge police action “against individuals who use it to taunt Catholics.”::::::::::
      You can read the rest here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrox_Stadium
      Besides, the Lord Yeshua(Jesus)said in {{Matthew 23.9: Call no man your father on earth, for you have only one Father, who is in heaven}} Let’s listen to the Lord rather than man…. Amen
      So why do the vaticanists want to be called father? Because the devil always want to duplicate God and what belongs to God.
  3. laura754 says:
    Ivar, do you have the story behind the child and the man? Was he hanged for being a heretic in the eyes of Rome? what that his child? Truly disgusting display and preoccupation with the skulls, bones and their buildings. I had no idea they did this. They display their sinful preoccupation with no shame. I know that would never be tolerated here in the US. But their beautiful churches here as just as evil since the gospel preached in them has the same eternal result, eternal death.
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Laura.
      Shalom.
      I do not know the story behind the strangled child. But, can an infant be an heretic? If the child is punished because the father did not serve the Pope, we are again taking about a slaughter of an innocent child.
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear readers.
        Here is an explanation from one web site.
        The identities of the two bodies have never been discovered, however it’s rumored that the adult figure is an adulterous man and his child, cursed by his wife.
        http://trifter.com/europe/portugal/the-capela-dos-ossos-in-evora-portugal-the-chapel-of-bones/
        If this is right, the wife of this man also made the priests butcher an innocent child. A child do not chose their own father or mother.
      • Joan Rogers says:
        You will see in the end,as the pope wants to rule the world,One World religion is coming right along,and Rev.tells us,they will kill the saints again.This future Babylon is way bigger then ancient Babylon,as he is adding all religions to join in their religion.They like Islams so figure it out.Thier religious leader Benedict made a pact with Islam.Right now,they hate Christians and call all of us heretics.If you do not agree with their false beliefs,beware
  4. sueliz1 says:
    Yes, I would like to know where all these bones came from! Hanging people from chains is a shadowing of hell. This is so vulgar and evil. No respect for the dead. I am disgusted. A celebration of hell and death and damnation.
  5. sueliz1 says:
    …Let the dead bury their dead…
  6. laura754 says:
    I don’t think that even at my most self-righteous pious period as a Catholic, I could have accepted this graphic, despicable habit of using bones etc. in so called churches. That is barbaric.
    Especially the hanging of those two bodies.
    This practice is simply not told to the average US Catholic. Perhaps it should be!
    Let the history and the practices of Catholicism be fully exposed.
    It’s the gospel that saves.
    not knowledge of history, I know.
    But truly knowledge of Rome’s history does at least reveal that something is very wrong with the Catholic church.
    I had a friend who finally listened to the gospel after being given Haley’s Bible Handbook and reading the Church History in it.
    (Before they revised the present version).
    He was shocked at what he read and disappointed and finally listened to the true way of salvation.
    He trusted Christ and turned away from Rome and never went back.
    this is why I do believe there is a time and place for exposing the harlot to the slaves in her system.
    • Gloria says:
      Observer II,
      Your Comment: It’s easy to be conned by Ivar and people like him who show you pictures out of context and write their own interpretation of what they want you to see.
      My Comment: Ivar backs his statements with the Word of God, which is the complete truth. You have backed up your statements with what you think is the truth from catholics.
      Your refusal to see what catholics do is wrong has blinded you to the truth. May God have mercy on you, Oberver.
      You have lots of questions, but answer me this: What do you think God means here? (If you ask me, it’s pretty straight forward) But what twist can you give it, Observer? Or will you whip out the catholic guide?
      Isaiah 42:8 God said, “I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.”
      Did you get that Observer? I WILL NOT YIELD MY GLORY TO ANOTHER OR MY PRAISE TO IDOLS.
    • Gloria says:
      Observer II,
      Most of these pictures that are up on the website, have the location of the church where these bones are. Most of these bones, you’d have to enter the chapel to see them. Do you really think that these photos are not real? They have a location on them.
      Only God knows what else these false teachers are hiding.
    • Gloria says:
      Observer,
      Your comment: How do you know that Ivar’s “Word of God” is really THE “Word of God.”?
      My Comment: Um…where is it that I said Ivar’s Word of God is really the Word of God? Please show me this post Observer. I’d like to see where I wrote this.
      WHAT I SAID WAS: Ivar backs his statements with the Word of God, which is the complete truth.
      Reread that please Observer. The “which” in my statement- refers to the Bible which is the Word of God. I know you would have caught on to that eventually.
      Your Comment: Under who’s authority is his Bible translation pronounced to be the correct translation?
      My Comment: Oh Observer, how you deny the truth. What reference is it that you use? The catholic guide to falseness? I’m going to pray Observer that Jesus Christ touches your heart, and that you finally realize that falsehood which the pope leads.
      Your Comment: And finally, please tell me what the purpose of the Bible is and how it is to be used correctly?
      My Comment: You only need to open up the Holy Word of God and find the answers. But here are some.
      John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
      John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
      Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
      Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God
      and here’s another good one Observer:
      2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness
      Your Comment: You pick and choose narrowly and miss the beauty of the forest for the trees.
      My Comment: 2 Peter 3:3 to 4 says: Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.”
      That is the catagory, you fall in right now. But Observer there is still time to repent.
      God Bless
    • Joan Rogers says:
      Laura,could not have said it better myself.I am amazed that it took this long for people to finally SEE.and amen to all God pulls out of her.
  7. peter says:
    And we all accept the biggest catholic feast day of the year December 25 Christ’s feast day or Christ’s mass. The birth day of the pagan god Mithras. A roman Caesar who became the pope of the Holy roman empire who made December 25 a pagan roman holy day into a roman catholic holy day. If you celebrate December 25 as anything you are a hypocrite for condemning the Catholics for all their other pagan forms of worship. Show me once in Jesus’ word where he said worship my birthday or where the apostles said worship Jesus’ birthday. You will follow Moses out of Egypt but you will not let go of your golden calf.
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Peter.
      Shalom.
      I do celebrate “Christmas” also on 24th of December. And I have quoted that we should celebrate “Christmas” every day. What do you feel about that? Can I be branded as a follower of Jesus the Messiah, If I do so? Where should I go and ask for permission?
      • NRP says:
        Ivar, I am almost sure that you have written about the fact the the “mass” is a celebration of the dead. Am I wrong? Regardless, how is “Christ-mass” a celebration of Christ’s birth? You do such a great job exposing the depravity of the Catholic church, I just pray that God will reveal to you the truth in the connection between the pagan origins of Christ-mass and the catholic involvement in “christianizing” it.
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear NRP.
        Shalom.
        I do not celebrate “christ-mass”. I do rejoice over the birth of the Messiah every day. God took on flesh, and came to Israel. To display to all of us who God is, and what God desire we shall do for Him. Amen.
    • Joan Rogers says:
      Peter so well said.I was not raised to celebrate Christmas..I always knew from a child God did not incarnate thru flesh (1Tim.3:16) on Christmas day.I have always used that day to remember the birth of Christ the pure Lamb of God.Since we do not know exactly when Christ came into the World to lay down His life for you and me,JUst celebrate Christ’s laying down His life for us our Once and for all sacrifice 1Cor.5:7.You said it very well Peter.
  8. Jes says:
    Thank you Peter, you’ve said it, and said it well.
    I have been trying to get his message out since a long time ago to friends and others, but each one has their own concept of the the Word of God.
    Yeshua(Jesus) said “If you want to follow me, deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow me” He meant “obey my commandments(which are also known as appointments, the 7 Feasts including Saturday Shabbat or Sabbath)” “and not the Sunday sabbath”, “and not the’celebration of my birthday on 25th Dec. each year”. No where in the Bible birthdays are celebrated.
    Christians who celebrate Christmas/N.Year/and other Roman feasts are taking part in the festivities of Catholicism.
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Jes.
      Shalom.
      It looks like we are headed for a fresh debate on the Sabbath. I sometimes take rest on Tuesday’s, and makes this day holy. Would the Lord of the Sabbath still love me?
    • Jes says:
      I meant the 7 feasts that Israel observes and not any other man-made feasts.
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear Jes.
        Shalom.
        You wrote:
        I meant the 7 feasts that Israel observes and not any other man-made feasts.
        My reply:
        When did Israel achieve a righteousness of her own, by her “good works”?
    • godsfingers says:
      ““If you want to follow me, deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow me” He meant “obey my commandments(which are also known as appointments, the 7 Feasts including Saturday Shabbat or Sabbath)” “and not the Sunday sabbath”, “and not the’celebration of my birthday on 25th Dec. each year”. No where in the Bible birthdays are celebrated.”
      I can’t seem to find that interpretation in the original Greek, or any of the translations for that matter. Do you use “The Voice” translation written by Jes?
  9. Jes says:
    Hello Ivar,
    When it comes to the Word of God, I prefer to PRACTICE IT and not DEBATE IT. However, if you want to debate on the Shabbat/Sabbath then be my guest!!
    It’s very interesting to read that you take rest on Tuesday and make this a holy day. I’m curious to know what exactly do you do on this ‘TUESDAY-REST-DAY’ …. However, ponder hard on this; did the Lord Yeshua Messiah(Jesus) say in His WORD that instead of Friday-sundown to Saturday-sundown, it’s OK to rest on any other day?
    Next…. Would the Lord of the Sabbath still love me?
    My flat answer is “NO” He won’t.
    Tell me, if you are disobedient to His Word, how can He love you? Did you ever realize when G-d created the world, the initial commandments were only two given to Adam & Eve. (1) Obedience and (2) The 7th Day of Rest(Shabbat), strictly according to His calendar and NOT the Julian or Gregorian calendar.
    The rest of the commandments were given after the flood due to the horrendous acts of the fallen angels.
    Have a wonderful day!! :)
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Jes.
      Shalom.
      You wrote:
      My flat answer is “NO” He won’t.
      My reply:
      I am sorry for all Messianic Jews who have to work on a Friday night. Like on Air Ports, inside Hospitals and even in the Fire Department. Even Saturday morning workers, seems to be excluded by your faulty understanding of salvation.
    • godsfingers says:
      And you can do all those things that you say and yet never enter into the Sabbath Rest…..
  10. Jes says:
    Ivar,
    Why do you look at the mistakes/sins of Israel? Are you following Israel or are you following Yeshua(Jesus) and His Instructions?
    I thought all this time that your support is for Israel, why you pointing fingers at them? Shouldn’t you be praying for Israel instead? They are human like all of us and they fall too – But G-d and His Word is infallible.
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Yes.
      Shalom.
      You wrote:
      I thought all this time that your support is for Israel, why you pointing fingers at them?
      My reply:
      It is a huge misunderstanding, that Israel is not supported by people who call her to repentance. I guess that is the message to 95 per cent of the Jews, who are not Messianic?
      The Old Testament prophets would by today’s religious Jews, be branded as anti-semites. Who gave them permission to expose the multiple sins of Israel? Jesus the Messiah must also have been a Jew-hater, since He did not “accept” that the Law of Moses could make anyone righteous.
      Biblical Zionism is all about Jesus the Messiah. The King of Jews. Only by accepting His Kingship, you can be saved. Amen.
  11. Observer II says:
    Well, I’m glad I came back on here to see what has developed since I was last on, and lo and behold – it appears that Ivar has scrubbed all of my earlier postings. All you can see now are the responses to my original posts.
    Ivar – what are you afraid of and why scrub mine and others responses who disagree with your propaganda and who add some intellectual honesty to the conversations?
    And now, let’s add in censorship of the truth to the list of manipulative methods you are conducting here.
    What could have caused you to censor my contributions? Maybe it is that you and others on here are not really looking for the truth, but perpetuating falsehood in your attempt to defame the Catholic Church in favor of your version of Christianity…
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Observer II
      Shalom, and welcome back to this site.
      I do not recall why I spammed you. But I guess you were publishing long messages, almost like booklets. I might be wrong.
      Please be brief, and address one topic at the time. Its easier to answer one question in each comment, than to solves all matters in one go.
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear Observer II
        Shalom.
        If the Pope “The Holy Father”?
        Or is there only one Holy Father, and that is Father God in Heaven?
        Please reply in brief.
  12. Liam says:
    How Old Is Your Church?
    If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex- monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
    If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to remarry.
    If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.
    If you are a Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England founded by Samuel Seabury in the American colonies in the 17th century.
    If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.
    If you are a Methodist, your religion was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.
    If you are a Unitarian, Theophilus Lindley founded your church in London in 1774.
    If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, N.Y., in 1829.
    If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1605.
    If you are of the Dutch Reformed church, you recognize Michaelis Jones as founder, because he originated your religion in New York in 1628.
    If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.
    If you are a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
    If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as ‘Church of the Nazarene,” “Pentecostal Gospel.” “Holiness Church,” “Pilgrim Holiness Church,” “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past century.
    If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Liam.
      Shalom, and welcome to this site.
      How old is Satan?
      How old is the first lie?
      A lie that has been told a million times, is still a lie.
      That the Roman Catholic Church was formed in 33 A.D is a lie. There was no RCC before 325 A.D. For almost 300 years, the Church was a Jewish fellowship. The Apostles were Jew, the gospel writers were Jewish, and most of the followers of the truth were Jews. Rome was filled with pagans, with the Emperor of Rome as their terrorist leader.
      The first Church was formed by Baptists, who baptized new believers with full immersion.
      Around 400 A.D the Church was tried captured by the Italians, who bid to get the Church to submit to a Pope. Today, the Pope in Rome still makes a mockery out of the truth. Just like you are. The Pope and his followers have done, and still do their best, to make the Word of God null and void.
      • E. Murray says:
        Ivarfjeld: What you are saying is a lie. The Roman Catholic Church was formed when Jesus Christ said to Peter: “And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys to the kingdom of Heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth it will be bound in Heaven…” (Matt. 16: 18,19). There has been an unbroken succession of Popes ever since. St. Peter was succeeded by St. Linus 67 A.D.-79 A.D. St Linus was succeeded by St. Cletus 79-89, etc. It was at Antioch during the time St. Paul wrote the Acts of the Apostles that “the disciples were first named Christians.” (Acts 11: 26). Of course most Christians were Jewish in the beginning, because the New Covenant is of the God of Israel for all nations: ..that thou should be My servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to convert the dregs of Israel. Behold, I have given thee to be the light of the Gentiles, that thou may be My salvation even to the farthest part of the earth.” (Isaias 49: 6). Baptism was form the beginning as the Scriptures said of John the Baptist. Baptism was one of the signs the Pharisees looked for as a sign of the Messiah, as they said to John the Baptist: “Why dost thou baptise if thou be not Christ, nor Elias, nor the prophet.” (John 1: 25). Baptism for men and women replaced circumcision for men only in the New Covenant. Jesus told his disciples: “He that believes and is baptized, shall be saved, but he that believes not shall be condemned.” (Mark 16: 16). The Church was underground for 300 years due to the persecution of the Caesars. The Catholic Church has not had a valid Pope since 1958 when Pope Pius XII died. The modern Antipopes do make a mockery of the truth not having the charism of infallibility that the true Popes have. The true Popes always maintained the integrity of the Gospel truth of the New Covenant.
      • joerahi says:
        Just a quick note, baptism by pouring was accepted as legitimate within the first century, as shown by the first century document, the didache (http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/didache.html). This was written while the apostle John was still alive and was very widely accepted.
    • Gloria says:
      Liam,
      What is the point of posting such a long list? The Word of God is the complete truth.
      You say: If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.
      My Comment: By your above defending last comment of Catholics, I can assume you are one-correct?
      Yet, the Bible tells us
      1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols.
      Jonah 2:8 Those who pay regard to vain idols forsake their hope of steadfast love.
      And it is the Catholics, and Hindus, and other religions that instead of solely praising Jesus Christ as their Savior and One and Only God, they praise Mary, they put up dead people, and pray to them, they praise statues.
      It is God who created all, Jesus Christ who died for your sins, and yet you don’t see that. You look for something else that is not there.
      Gloria
      • Sherwood says:
        Catholics do not worship Idols…Your ignorant and and your only knowledge of the catholic religion comes from the posts of strange people from the internet. The art you see in a Catholic church is just that, art… no one in a catholic mass believes that any of the statues that may be in church are alive or contain any type of spirit. Just because there is a statue inside a church doesn’t make Catholics idol worshipers… I went to a friends “Born Again Christian Church” (that he asked me to go 500 thousand times-Catholics do not do this, but hey you are apparently better than me) and saw huge jumbo trons on the wall, and a pastor with a $200k Benz pushing his gospel albums all while passing the 5th collection basket, this time for pool tables in their new teen center…. should I believe that wat i saw was a sin, or a form of greed or excess?? And its catholic who have it backwards? After thousands of years MAN messes up the word of god… kind of like playing telephone.. After a while it’s not the same message. BUT hey, it’s all we got.. Everything was written by man, bible, commandments, scriptures, scrolls, its ridicules to say that one holds more weight than the other. Religion is just a tool; you can use it for evil or good but please don’t blame the tool, blame the man wielding it. Scandals of abuse, etc.? EVERY RELIGION has had an issue with it! ALSO, things were VERY different 30 years ago… so imagine how it must have been thousands of years ago… We should not JUDGE a person or their religion, it’s not our job! It is ONLY GOD’s WILL that judges me or you. Besides, who are you going to call when a horde or angry possessed zombies come tearing at your door?? A Scientologist of a Priest? IM KIDDING-Learn to take a joke people … we are all being punished here, might as well make light of the situation :P
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear Sherwood.
        Shalom.
        You wrote:
        No one in a catholic mass believes that any of the statues that may be in church are alive or contain any type of spirit. Just because there is a statue inside a church doesn’t make Catholics idol worshipers.
        My comment:
        Catholics do believe a lot of stuff. God of the Bible do not care. The realities bite.
        If you knew that God would leave you, and hate you, would you ever again bow down before and kiss a statue?
        Would you put a piece of wood and stone at the altar, if you knew that you would get painful boils and cancer by doing so?
        Catholics do not mind. The majority of Catholics would not even consider what the scriptures say.
        Because Catholics are sure that their Pope will rescue them. In Purgatory all their pain and suffering will end.
        The Pope is elevated to the seat of “god”, being infallible in matters of moral and understanding of the scripture. When the Pope says idols are not harmful, a Catholic will believe so. If the Pope one day says, throw the idols out of the Church, they will do so. The Pope is their “god”. They will do as he say.
        The images of skulls and rotten corpses inside Catholic Churches will have no impact on a religious Catholic. The spirit of death is not disturbed by people worshiping death. But some people who are still awake and connected to life, might be saved by seeing such images. They will understand that the pope is an anti-Christ in flesh. They will accept that Catholicism has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.
        The Vatican has perverted the gospel, to fit the ancient national Italian religion. The religious manifestation inside the Vatican priesthood are often like a horror movie. Just ask all the children who have been raped by their “Holy fathers”.
        News That Matters has no illusion that the majority of Roman Catholics will ever repent. God of the Bible has put a dilution of their mind. They love the lies their priests are telling them, and see delight in wickedness.
        The generational curses are passed on from parents to children. If you are going to make a difference, you will be ex-communicated and persecuted.
        If you want to live, you will have to walk the narrow path.
  13. sueliz1 says:
    Liam.
    Blessings. There is more to church history than what you’ve been told. May the truth set you free.
    Sue
  14. Liam says:
    Ok….Then What is the Papacy???
    There is ample evidence in the New Testament (whether Protestant or Catholic version) that Peter was first in authority among the twelve. Whenever they were named, Peter headed the list (Matt. 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13); sometimes the apostles were referred to as “Peter and those who were with him” (Luke 9:32). Peter was the one who generally spoke for the apostles (Matt. 18:21, Mark 8:29, Luke 12:41, John 6:68-69), and he figured in many of the most dramatic scenes (Matt. 14:28-32, Matt. 17:24-27, Mark 10:23-28). On Pentecost it was Peter who first preached to the crowds (Acts 2:14-40), and he worked the first healing in the Church age (Acts 3:6-7). It is Peter’s faith that will strengthen his brethren (Luke 22:32) and Peter is given Christ’s flock to shepherd (John 21:17). An angel was sent to announce the resurrection to Peter (Mark 16:7), and the risen Christ first appeared to Peter (Luke 24:34). He headed the meeting that elected Matthias to replace Judas (Acts 1:13-26), and he received the first converts (Acts 2:41). He inflicted the first punishment (Acts 5:1-11), and excommunicated the first heretic (Acts 8:18-23). He led the first council in Jerusalem (Acts 15), and announced the first dogmatic decision (Acts 15:7-11). It was to Peter that the revelation came that Gentiles were to be baptized and accepted as Christians (Acts 10:46-48).
    Peter the Rock
    Peter’s preeminent position among the apostles was symbolized at the very beginning of his relationship with Christ. At their first meeting, Christ told Simon that his name would thereafter be Peter, which translates as “Rock” (John 1:42). The startling thing was that—aside from the single time that Abraham is called a “rock” (Hebrew: Tsur; Aramaic: Kepha) in Isaiah 51:1-2—in the Old Testament only God was called a rock. The word rock was not used as a proper name in the ancient world. If you were to turn to a companion and say, “From now on your name is Asparagus,” people would wonder: Why Asparagus? What is the meaning of it? What does it signify? Indeed, why call Simon the fisherman “Rock”? Christ was not given to meaningless gestures, and neither were the Jews as a whole when it came to names. Giving a new name meant that the status of the person was changed, as when Abram’s name was changed to Abraham (Gen.17:5), Jacob’s to Israel (Gen. 32:28), Eliakim’s to Joakim (2 Kgs. 23:34), or the names of the four Hebrew youths—Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah to Belteshazzar, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego (Dan. 1:6-7). But no Jew had ever been called “Rock.” The Jews would give other names taken from nature, such as Deborah (“bee,” Gen. 35:8), and Rachel (“ewe,” Gen. 29:16), but never “Rock.” In the New Testament James and John were nicknamed Boanerges, meaning “Sons of Thunder,” by Christ, but that was never regularly used in place of their original names, and it certainly was not given as a new name. But in the case of Simon-bar-Jonah, his new name Kephas (Greek: Petros) definitely replaced the old.
    So, history is not important?? What then effects NOW! Ignorance of both scripture, history, and tradtiton. Is ignorance of the truth….for I know what truth is!
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Liam.
      Shalom.
      You wrote:
      Peter’s preeminent position among the apostles was symbolized at the very beginning of his relationship with Christ. At their first meeting.
      My reply:
      You know the truth,but still you reject it. You have been told to promote the “petrine” theology of Rome. Let me make this in simple language.
      1. Jesus told Peter: Get behind me Satan.
      2. Peter betrayed Jesus.
      3. Peter fell into hypocrisy after the Day of Pentecost, and was rebuked by Paul at his face.
      4. Peter was a married man.
      5. Peter was an apostles to the Jews, Paul went westwards into the Roman Empire and to Rome.
      The Pope of Rome claim to be a successor of the Apostles Peter. There is no successor of Peter. There are only successors of Jesus, believers who walk on Earth and obey the truth. They can do so empowered by the Holy Spirit, equally available to all men.
      The Pope is a truth-mocker. You are one of his children, and in the end you will both get what you deserve. Liam you need to repent, or you will surely perish and Hell will be your final destination.
      • Joan Rogers says:
        Ivarfjeld,said very well,but they do not get it.Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature(Mary,Peter,their pope etc) more than the Creator(God), who is blessed for ever. Amen. Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, /then Satan blinded them so they cannot SEE the truth ,lest they believe and are saved 2Cor.4:4,So,they believe their religion and its’ leader and they exalt both higher then God.
  15. Liam says:
    By the way! If you all are wondering what is that Skeleton Chapel? You find information here for a look.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capuchin_Crypt
    It one of a few dozen like Churches in Italy, Poland, Spain, and France!! Research about it before you judge it. Hope this helps abit!
    • sueliz1 says:
      Liam.
      Your link brought no comfort. Decorating a church with bones is vile and evil. Let the dead bury their dead…
      Making lamps out of bones is despicable. Would you like to be a lamp fixture? No respect for the dead.
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Liam
      Shalom.
      I have spammed all this Vatican propaganda of yours. If you are here to debate faith you are welcome. But go somewhere else with your booklets about the Papacy.
      • steveair says:
        Ivar I hope you don’t mind this “copy and paste”
        “God’s justice demands that we make reparation for our sins.”
        Where, oh where in the Word of God (The Bible) can I find a verse or statement that would support your above statement ???
        By: steveair on January 6, 2011
        at 9:09 am
        Reply
        Thanks for stopping by. I think one could argue that the book of Leviticus is an argument that God demands that we make reparation for our sins. But if what you’re really looking for is more biblical support for what appear to be bizarre Catholic beliefs, check out scripturecatholic.com
        By: Littletoe on January 6, 2011
        at 9:33 am
        Reply By: steveair on January 6, 2011
        at 10:09 am
        Thanks for your suggestion Deary, but I have long ago totally abandoned catholicism for a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus. He paid for my sin totally, no indulgences required.. I will not return to the quagmire of catholicism by reading it’s heresy.
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear Steveair.
        Shalom.
        Your Question:
        Ivar I hope you don’t mind this “copy and paste”
        “God’s justice demands that we make reparation for our sins.”
        My reply:
        I can not recall that I have written this. But I do write wrong things, because my English skills are fare from perfect. That we have to make “reparation” for our sins must be one of these lapses.
        Please give me the link to this comment, and I will take a look.
      • steveair says:
        Sorry Ivar, In that paste, I was conversing with a person “Little Toe”. She made that comment and I was replying. Here is the link. http://littletoe.wordpress.com/2009/05/26/indulgences-a-sure-sign-of-error-in-the-catholic-church/#comment-298
  16. sueliz1 says:
    Liam.
    Peace.
    A list of names and numbers proves nothing. Having number one next to the name Peter does not prove apostolic succession. There was no heirarchy in the early church. This was introduced from Constatine. Go read about his life and how he murderers his own family …still worshipping the sun god while being Catholic.
    • Liam says:
      Pope as a successor to Saint Peter, whom, according to interpretation of the bible, Jesus named as the “shepherd” and “rock” of the Church (see Matthew 16:18-19) which is not symbolic but literal.
      Although Peter never bore the title of “Pope”, which came into use much later, Catholics recognize him as the first Pope,[4] while official declarations of the Church speak of the Popes as holding within the college of the Bishops a position analogous to that held by Peter within the college of the Apostles, namely Prince of the Apostles, of which the college of the Bishops, a distinct entity, is the successor.
      Many popes in the first three centuries of the Christian era are obscure figures. Several suffered martyrdom along with members of their flock in periods of persecution. Most of them engaged in intense theological arguments with other bishops
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear Liam
        Shalom, and love in Jesus the Messiah.
        First let me explain, that short messages like this will be permitted. Let us take one topic at the time.
        You wrote:
        Pope as a successor to Saint Peter, whom, according to interpretation of the bible, Jesus named as the “shepherd” and “rock” of the Church (see Matthew 16:18-19) which is not symbolic but literal.
        My reply:
        Jesus did not say: Peter, on you I will build the Church.
        Jesus said: You are Peter. (chepas, or small stones). On this rock (Jesus Him self), I will build MY Church.
        This is from the Amplified Bible.
        Matthew 16:18
        And I tell you, you are Peter [Greek, Petros--a large piece of rock], and on this rock [Greek, petra--a huge rock like Gibraltar] I will build My church, and the gates of Hades (the powers of the infernal region) shall not overpower it [or be strong to its detriment or hold out against it].
        (end of scriptures).
        It is very clear that Peter is not going to build anything. He is a mortal man, not “The Holy Father”, a title the Roman Catholic Church has given the Pope. Jesus will build HIS Church. And He uses believers who obey Him. The Pope does not obey the scriptures. He is a lawless man, who have introduces so many Satanic inspired doctrines into the Catholic religion, that few people are able to count.
      • joerahi says:
        You wrote “(end of scriptures)” but after Jesus said about rocks, he said,
        “and I will give to thee the keys of the reign of the heavens, and whatever thou mayest bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever thou mayest loose upon the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens.” Don’t deny Peter what Jesus gave him.
        I’ve heard that the rock/pebble distinction was out of use, not present in Aramaic, andSimon’s new name had to be Petros rather than Petras just because he was male, so couldn’t be called by a feminine noun.
  17. HAHAHAHAAAAA quit crying little faggot. I think the church is quite beautiful, and I do NOT recall any divine command on not using bones to build things with anyway. Who are these people, if christians they should feel blessed, if not, damn them to hell anyway.
    • Jes says:
      “if christians they should feel blessed, if not, damn them to hell anyway”
      Yes, HAHA! let’s see who gets the last laugh – for you are on your way into that damned place.
      Have fun boy, while you can for it is just a second into eternity where there’s no U-Turn.
      • sueliz1 says:
        Jes,
        Palebunny is obsessed with gore and blood and every evil atrocity on his website.
        The man needs our prayers and mercy.
        For the grace of God, go I. Mercy and love can break through every evil.
        He jokes about what he does not know or understand.
  18. Angel says:
    Wow this gives new meaning to “skull and bones”. There’s no doubt the papacy is the anti-christ power of scripture, great babylon, the whore and the mother of harlots! Her demise is sure, for prophecy says it’s so! COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE is what God says, and not only catholicism but the protestants who follow in her footsteps who are breaking God’s fourth commandment to keep the Sabbath holy! Sunday is NOT God’s Sabbath! Only the 7th day was blessed, hallowed and sanctified! Only the Sabbath is God’s holy day! Do some research on the subject! The Catholic Church admits it “changed” the sabbath from Saturday to Sunday but MAN can NOT change God’s IMMORTAL law that HE WROTE with is own finger in TABLES OF STONE!! What BLASPHEMY!!! People had better wake up SOON for Jesus is coming soon and all those who continue to follow this evil system of worship will share in the plagues and wrath of God and their ultimate destruction!!
  19. Another says:
    Is this truth or just another fake story? I definitely cannot agree with the author about “catholics being pervert and inhuman” as I am a catholic myself. There are perverts among any religious, social or political group. This chapel is disgust and I cannot approve anything of the kind, but why blame all christians? Christianity has nothing to do with pervert priests or “devils in preists’ robes”. Real christianity has been crusified along with Christ. Those who are Christ’ s followers will never do anything of the kind or go to pray God in such a chapel, so please, don’ t blame christians, blame inhuman and pervert people who are not christians at all.
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Another.
      Shalom.
      Many Catholics do not know about the worship of skull, bones and corpses proved by the Vatican.. This kind of worship are manifestations that has its root in false theology. Feel free to surf around in the skull and bones files.
    • sueliz1 says:
      Dear Another,
      I grew up Catholic and educated Catholic through university years.
      Please take time to read the Vatican files also on this website. There is much you don’t know.
      The Lord pulled me out of Catholicism two years ago. Let us know what you think of the stories.
      God bless you.
      Sue
  20. Stanley says:
    I have a question?? Has anybody ever been to this chapel in Portugal?? Having pictures is one thing to say, but to know the actually history of this chapel and the experience of being is more important to know about! Plus how old is the chapel and what the time period during its built???
    • Jes says:
      I would never even think of going to such a chapel and I can’t say I know of anyone who has been in there – but, I do know something and I am pretty positive about it. The Portuguese joined in with the Spanish Inquisition sometime in the 1200′s and carried it out in various countries around the world. I’m not going to write a list of them as I want to try and keep this comment short so you can check out the information here:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition#Portuguese_Inquisition.
      I don’t want to be too specific for security reasons but I am a very angry descendant of the victims of this evil genocide carried out by “the generation of serpents and vipers” Same as in Matt.23:33 – They are all one and their descendants still exist today and as Yeshua(Jesus) warned, we are going to be seeing much worse that’s going to happen in the not too distant future. Focusing on and trusting Yeshua(Jesus) is our only Salvation. However, God is so good, He does preserve His remnant and I am extremely grateful that I was born to worship and love Him(The God of Israel, Yeshua Messiah) may HE come soon.
      Re. the above chapel, it is my strong belief that these hundreds, perhaps millions -skulls and bones could be of the victims of those inquisitions carried out on both “The Children of Israel” and many other good and innocent people that were murdered along with them. The skulls and bones used for this grotesque decoration is very likely the bones of victims in Portugal itself and/or those of other countries which were later loaded into ships, brought into Portugal for building and decorating this chapel/s to boast of their evil achievements. No normal human being would ever commit such horrendous acts – but only Satan and his descendants. Bear in mind their are two seeds in this world – The seed of YAHWEH(God) and the seed of the devil … starting from the Garden of Eden. That’s why Yeshua(Jesus) warned us to be ALERT!!
      Hope this makes sense to you. Would appreciate your response. Be Blessed!!
      • Stanley says:
        First of all Jes Wikipedia is considered a poor primary resource for any research!!!!!!! Because from moment to moment, you cannot be certain of its reliability. In fact, it is far less reliable than other printed sources you could (and should) be using.
        An expansive and systematic study of all of the edits made for one calendar quarter (late 2007) on Wikipedia’s 100 articles about the hundred U.S. senators showed that the content in those articles was deliberately misleading, misinformed, or defamatory about 6.8% of the time. Some would say that’s “not bad”, others would say it’s “not good”. Even Colleges and university systems do not allow students to use the site for primary or secondary resource information!
        I don’t believe any encyclopedia would ever be 100% perfect, and surely no encyclopedia matches Wikipedia’s breadth of coverage. However, a 6.8% inaccuracy rate is nothing for the Wikipedia project to be proud of.
        Another incident is instructive. The Wikipedia article about Jackson, Michigan stated that Abraham Lincoln was in attendance at the first Republican Party nominating convention. This was false. The only city that Lincoln ever visited in Michigan was Kalamazoo, and it had nothing to do with the state nominating convention in Jackson. This error was present within Wikipedia for 601 days.
        An older university study of Wikipedia’s “damaged views” rate suggested that Wikipedia is getting progressively more and more damaged over time.
        I think that people who will go to Wikipedia for information, and ONLY to Wikipedia for information are selling short their educational opportunity. Take advantage of the many, diverse resources that are available for research — both online and off-line.
        One of my favorites lately is Google Books. You can type in any search term, then get a truckload of books that discuss that topic — with many of the books “readable”, at least the few pages around your specific search term or phrase.
        NOW!!!
        The Igreja Real de São Francisco (Royal Church of St. Francis) in Évora is best known for its chapel that is not for the faint of heart. In the Capela dos Ossos (Chapel of Bones), the walls and central pillars are covered with human skulls of friars of the Franciscan Order, held together by cement.
        you can find it in EyeWitness Travel guide books on Evora city
        or Checkout
        http://www.sacred-destinations.com/portugal/evora-capela-dos-ossos-chapel-of-bones
        Now the history of the Church of St. Francis itself was built in the Gothic style with Manueline influences between 1460 and 1510. Its Capela dos Ossos was created by a few Franciscan monks in the 16th century as a practical solution to a problem – as many as 42 monastic cemeteries were taking up valuable space in Evora, so they moved all the bones to a single consecrated chapel. Seeing an opportunity to contemplate and communicate the inevitability of death, the monks chose to display the bones prominently rather than storing them away.
        What to See…..in the main Church of St. Francis is opulently decorated with golden altars and walls of painted blue tile. The Chapel of Bones is entered next door, through a large arch bearing a painted rhyme reminding visitors of their own mortality: Nós ossos que aqui estamos, pelos vossos esperamos: “Our bones that are here wait for yours!”
        Inside, human bones and skulls completely cover the chapel’s walls and pillars – the number of skeletons has been estimated at 5,000. Legend has it the bones come from soldiers of a major battle or plague victims, but in reality they are people from all walks of life who were buried in Evora’s medieval cemeteries.
        It has no link to the Inquistions!!!! People buried here are monks or Friars!
        Interestingly, the bones of the monks who assembled the chapel are not on display – they are kept in a small white coffin in the chapel. In addition to all the bones, there are two full corpses hanging high on a wall. Their identities are unknown, but there are plenty of legends: one popular story says they are an adulterous man and his infant son, cursed by his jealous wife, but no one certain of this case.
        At one end of the chapel, an altar with a crucifix reminds visitors of the way to overcome death. The rib-vaulted ceiling of the chapel continues the theme, painted with small scenes accompanied by Latin phrases such as “I leave, but I don’t die,” “I die in the light,” and “The day that I die is better than the day that I was born.”
  21. Jared says:
    im growing rather weary of christians thinking that they have the right to determine who is and who isnt going to hell. from an outside perspective, as long as no one was murdered for their contribution to the architecture and at least a decent portion were able to consent to their bones and bodies being used i see nothing wrong with any of this simply because its different. people find this shocking, revolting, disgusting, and then they get angry because its a church which goes against their preconceived notions of what is and what isnt a church. i intend to go there. that architecture would harness a great deal of spiritual power that could be incredibly useful for certain meditations. dont condemn what you dont understand.
  22. I’m Portuguese and I’ve been there a couple of times and there’s nothing horrific about it, just bad taste from the XVI century. Bones and more bones…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capela_dos_Ossos
    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?client=tmpg&hl=en&langpair=es%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://thewotme.com/%3Fp%3D917&usg=ALkJrhiXiLFqJRR7k96hXocfPDz6BDwLQg
    http://www.clementcelma.com/pano/bone-chapel.html
    I would be more worried with the humaneness capitalism and open economy that with bones. :-P
    • Jes says:
      Hi Minguel Veloso,
      Thanks for all the links provided. I’m not particularly interested in bones and dead bodies – however, the very fact that these bones are displayed in such a despicable manner does say something very sinister about them that happened a long, long time ago.
      No offense please, but the Portuguese plundered my rich land, killed my ancestors and occupied the land for hundreds of years robbing us further of all our wealth, and also mineral resources. However, finally they were all kicked out of the country by ambush… Thank God!!
      Re. { I would be more worried with the humaneness….. }
      Well, I do respect that, particularly coming from a modern day Portuguese. As for the rest of your sentence…>
      {….. capitalism and open economy that with bones… }
      Hold your smile until you watch this to know what’s really coming upon the entire world … http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=13E96CDE031CA6A1123632842BF2E9C2
      http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=8E1CDC58F1BD9186D273FC857451B42A
      The word humane has been vanishing from dictionaries for a long time, now it is become very faint.
      Watch the rest of the videos provided.
  23. Jes says:
    In response to Stanley – November 14, 2011 at 4:18 am – comment.
    Thanks for your feedback. However, I wasn’t expecting to read about Wikipedia but rather just a response to my above comment that was a response to your following question of November 13, 2011 at 12:01 am
    ::::::: I have a question?? Has anybody ever been to this chapel in Portugal?? :::::::::
    Again re. the second part of your long response, I can never believe in the writings of the Catholic church knowing how great a Jezebel this church is. I am also not interested in their skull & bones chapel, and would never even dream of visiting one of those horror houses. The reason I commented above was because the pictures had brought on sudden past memories, memories of my murdered ancestors that angered me. No one will ever know whose bones those are; whether criminals, innocent victims or the so-called friars and monks that you mentioned. Reading your comment, I figured out you are catholic, I guess you should look deeper into what the true God of Israel has to say about dead bodies, bones and other remains.
  24. Saint101 says:
    what happen to this long worthless conversation? Does this bring world peace? Does your religion, helped feed the hunger? Lols.
    Ivar, how many people worships the Pope? millions, maybe billions i dont know, you tell me. We cant stop them from believing…
  25. sueliz1 says:
    Just one person saved makes it all worth it. For He died for that one person and for you, Saint101.It’s not a religion, it’s a relationship, available to you by trusting in the Messiah.
  26. Oscar Don says:
    This is a horrible sigth to behold.May Almighty God prevail his justice in this matter.
  27. Desecrated… not dessicated.
  28. Prettyunusual says:
    Do you not all see how this whole string of conversations would be better without religion. Less hate, that’s for sure. It would go more like this…
    “You know, you are pretty awesome.”
    “Yes, and you are good too. You are my friend and equal.”
    “Well that is freaking so cool you said that, ’cause I feel the same way.”
    Religion kills kindness, obviously.
    • godsfingers says:
      As I take off my holier than thou hat and put on my baseball cap:
      “Why don’t you get a job”
      “I have a college degree, you need to pay me what I want, conservative moron”
      “Why don’t you get a job and quit sticking your hand out?”
      “Because I’m entitled to it you conservative, toothless right wing dirt bag”
      “go get a job and work for once you liberal whacko”
      Yup, Jesus gets in the way. Ever been to Wisconsin’s Moscow of the Midwest??
  29. Jen says:
    So many people are looking for the truth and don’t find it in Catholic churches anymore. That’s why so many Catholic churches are closing nowdays. Non-denominational Bible reading and believing churches like mine are growing. People need Jesus….not a Pope.
  30. Jen says:
    wow Prettyunusual What a one-sided way of thinking. There is “religion” and then there’s the truth. By the way atheism sure worked well in Russia, Cambodia, North Korea, and China.
  31. shoeupon67 says:
    IF THE POLICE find on skull in my house they would me in hand cuff. where is the police in this.
  32. Zoompad says:
    Ugh! I do not think Jesus Christ would ever want to set foot in that horrible hell hole.
  33. Harry Brown says:
    ALL religion is utter bollocks. The end.
  34. SR says:
    Ivar,
    I googled this and these people were not alive. They had to make the grave site bigger and all these bones were dug up in the process. They were stacking them and someone came up with the idea to make art out of it. So they did. I am not saying it would be my favorite place to be and I am a Catholic. Kind of creeps me, a little. However, it was not like people were killed for their bones to make this Church. From what I read this was not an uncommon practice in Europe at this time.
    I wish if you were going to do these post, you would at least give the whole story. I cannot say I am a big fan of it either, but I did not live in those times. From what I read there were just piles and piles of bones at this particular place. There were others also which were constructed for whatever reason. Sometimes we have to consider the time period things such as this took place and search for the reason.
    On this particular Church, (I think they called them Ossuaries and I might not of spelled it correctly) it was like they did not know what to do with the dug up bones. God Bless, SR
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear SR
      Shalom, and love in Jesus.
      It is astonishing that you have the guts to stand in front of Jesus and say, “this is ok, because there were just to many bones to bury them. So we made some funny kind of art of the remains of the dead”.
      You are going to face judgment. Repent or perish.
      The truth about Roman Catholicism is painful. From the day you came in under the submission of the emperor of Rome and his Bishop, your priests became butchers of followers of Jesus who refused to bow before the papacy.
      You should be ashamed defending these evildoers. You should rather fall on your feel and beg Jesus for mercy. Next: Get out of this corrupt religious movement.
      • SR says:
        Ivar,
        Where did I say it was “ok” in my comment? Don’t put words in my mouth. I was trying to shed a little light on your post that “people were not killed” to do this, and reflecting back on the time era in which this was done. Mainly for the ones which were hanging there. I said, “It kind of creeps me out,” and it does. I did not “defend” anything because personally I do not like it.
        As far as my “judgment” do you realise you will be standing there with me, along with everyone else? If you do not mind, I will leave where my soul goes to God. That decision is God’s alone.
        Just for you FYI, I repent many times a day, and beg for God’s mercy on us all. As we all must trust and depend on His mercy.
        You may have last word, as I am done with this. Did not mean for you to give me an entire sermon on the matter. Was just trying to fill in some blanks. God Bless, SR
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear SR.
        Shalom.
        I find it astonishing that Roman Catholics simply can not take a stand for the truth, when the gross errors of this Church is exposed.
        The worship of bones, skulls and corpses in the RCC is keeping millions of people away from the true Jesus of the Bible. Surely, the priests, bishops, cardinals and the Popes are going to face judgment for this.
        Let me remind you what Paul the Apostle wrote about those who pervert the gospel of Jesus:
        Galatians 1:6-9:
        I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
    • Jules says:
      It is a good thing to remember the dead. This chapel does just that. Why all this hate against a Church is beyond words , because this hate is based on what some people think they know about Catholic doctrines and tradition, and not on actual teachings. We are not idol worshipers or Jew haters yada yada yada…. Not one of these people can say they have read any of the Pope’s [past or present] encyclicals, but many here make sweeping generalizations that just show up their ignorance. Oh well, there will always be these type of uneducated people around who never give documented credible evidence for their accusations.For example did they bother really looking into why Jesus says…Get behind me Satan,or why Jesus says Call no man Father, or why Saints are asked to intercede for us????….I could go on and on…but hey there are LIBRARIES full of books and credible, trustworthy information, by real scolars, but some here would rather wallow in their own spite.
      ps….. Every time I read certain hater’s comments I pity them and their wasted brains.
      • Kay says:
        Jules,
        So you are saying then that Jesus came only for the educated with access to libraries full of books by great scholars?
        Jesus never said we must only access Him thru an earthly Church. Catholics place great focus on Holy Mother Church as if she is the savior. This is wrong. Jesus said, ““Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28). So directly to Him we are free to go. Anyone or any institution who tells us otherwise is not to be trusted.
        And so anyone who disagrees with your Holy Mother church is “a wasted brain”? Now, and i state this with sarcasm, is respect for all human life at its finest. :-/
        Kay
  35. buespace says:
    Reblogged this on buespace and commented:
    worrying, to say the least
  36. Jules says:
    Kay,
    The Church was established by JESUS- HE is the head of the church . Catholics acknowledge that Jesus did not leave us ‘orphaned’ He knew we need leadership hence He sent the disciples by twos on their mission of evangelisation. His Church is catholic= universal = pope as head as St Peter was. Jesus did not establish 40000 churches all claiming authority. He gave authority to Peter and the Apostles[the bishops are successors of the apostles] . The line of succession has not been broken in the Catholic church. Protestants split away and remain outside the church. Jesus promised to be with the church.
    Saint Ignatius of Antioch, in “Epistle to the Smyrnaeans,” c. 105 A.D explains this very well.
    Wherever the bishop appears, let the congregation be there also. Just as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is manifest, therefore, that we should look upon the bishop even as we would look upon the Lord Himself, standing, as he does, before the Lord. As therefore the Lord did nothing without the Father, being united to Him, neither by Himself nor by the apostles, so neither do ye anything without the bishop and presbyters. Be ye subject to the bishop as to the Lord, for ‘he watches for your souls, as one that shall give account to God.’ In like manner, let all reverence the deacons as an appointment of Jesus Christ, and the bishop as Jesus Christ, who is the Son of the Father, and the presbyters as the Sanhedrin of God, and assembly of the apostles. Apart from these, there is no Church. See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. He who honors the bishop has been honored by God; he who does anything without the knowledge of the bishop, does [in reality] serve the devil. Give ye heed to the bishop, that God also may give heed to you. Be ye subject to the bishop, to the presbyters, and to the deacons.” St. Ignatius of Antioch, “Epistle to the Smyrnaeans,” c. 105 A.D.
    • ivarfjeld says:
      Dear Jules
      Shalom.
      You wrote:
      The line of succession has not been broken in the Catholic church. Protestants split away and remain outside the church. Jesus promised to be with the church.
      My comment:
      Are you aware of the anti-Popes? At one time, the Roman Catholic Church had three men claiming to be the right Pope. Two of them with papal thrones in Italy, and one in France.
      To claim Papal unbroken succession of “Peter” as the Bishop of Rome, is also a false claim. From 1870 A.D the Pope was even ousted from the city of Rome, and sent into exile. The Pope did not return before 1929, when the Vatican statehood was gifted the Papacy by Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini.
      So you can correctly say, that the Roman Catholic Church is a successor of Fascism in Italy.
      If you really are a truth seeker, you can read more from this link:
      http://ivarfjeld.com/2013/06/28/ousted-pope-brought-back-by-the-fascists/
  37. SLIMJIM says:
    This is so sick and twisted…I can’t believe any group would use the name “Christian” for this. Reveals more about Catholicism than what most people like to think…Grotesque.