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Thursday, 19 September 2013

The Orthodox Church and Catholic necromancy II: Rome returned stolen Skull of St. Irene

Rome returned stolen Skull of St. Irene

There is a lot of drama around people who fight over skulls. One of them is St. Irene.

The skull of St.Irene was stolen by Rome, but returned to its Orthodox owners.
This is what an Greek Orthodox web site has recorded:

 ”Some of the relics of St. Irene may have been stolen by the Latin Crusaders during the sack of Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade of 1204″. 
Source: St. Basil the Great.
It must be said that theft done by the claimed to be holy Roman Catholic Church, is regrettable.  At the end of the story, you will see that this criminal act were revoked in 1999, and the stolen skull returned.
The problem is that the Orthodox Church, accuse the Roman Catholic Church, not only of robbing their skulls. But also to “destroying holy places”.

 ”The Latin sack of Constantinople changed the “sacred physiognomy” of the city as its holy places were destroyed and desecrated, only to be partially restored when the Byzantines took back the city in 1261″.
Lets take a deeper look into this robbery.
“St. Irene was born in the city of Magedon, Persia during the fourth century, circa 310 A.D. Her Christian name Irene means peace, and she was one of the twelve Virgin Martyrs who appeared to the eighteenth century Russian ascetic St. Seraphim of Sarov and the Diveyevo nun Eupraxia on the Feast of the Annunciation in 1831″.
This kind of acts by a “saint” raised many questions.
The skull was stolen in 1204, and not returned until 1999. Still the claimed to be saint appeared among a dozen virgins, to another saint and a nun in 1831.
Did St. Irene appear with our with our her stolen skull?
If the “saint” appeared with a skull, the “saint” must have been able to find its own stolen head. And if that happened, why did not the “saint” her self return her own head back to its rightful owners already in 1831?
If the “saint” appear without its head, how did it find its way?
Could this been an example of a false miracle and sign?  Or are the involved clergy just confused or misguided?
Most likely both. There is a need to come to a conclusion:
The Vatican is not only the largest collector of bones and skulls. The Roman Catholic Church is also a grand robber of pieces of dead mans flesh. Because if they were not robbers of this skull, why return the “holy item”?
Jesus the Messiah has a short message to religious people, who fight over bones.

 Matthew 23:27
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.
Written by Ivar

5 Responses to Rome returned stolen Skull of St. Irene

    • Augustine says:
      Such a website of Falsehood!!! You really think that is TRUE source of INFO!!! Please!!
      Catholics and Orthodoxs do not worship relics as they worship God, by adoration. If you mean worship in the sense of honor or veneration, then Catholics certainly venerate the relics of Saints. The law, “Honor thy father and thy mother,” extends to their persons, body and soul; to their reputations, and to all connected with them. We reverence their remains even after death. And if we are not to venerate the remains and relics of the Saints who have been so entirely consecrated to God, are we to desecrate them? Or are we to be blandly indifferent to them as to the bleached bones of some dead animal lying in the fields? The Catholic doctrine, forbidding adoration, yet commanding respect and veneration, is the only possible Christian conduct.
      Plus NO one holds that material relics of themselves possess any innate talismanic value. But God Himself can certainly grant favors even of a temporal nature through the relics of Saints, thus honoring His Saints, and rewarding the faith and piety of some given Catholic. St. Matthew tells us that the diseased people came to Christ. “And they besought Him that they might touch but the hem of His garment. And as many as touched were made whole.” Matt. 14:36. Again we read of a woman who touched the hem of Christ’s garment and who was cured. “And Jesus, knowing in Himself the virtue that had proceeded from Him, said: “Who has touched my garments.” Mk. 5:30. You may reply that these incidents concerned Christ, and that, whilst He was still living in this world. But that does not affect the principle that God can grant temporal favors through inanimate things. And if you look up 2 Kings 13:21, in your own Protestant version of the Bible, you will find that a dead man, who was being buried in the sepulchre of Elisha, was restored to life the moment his body came into contact with the bones of that great prophet of God. In the Acts of the Apostles, too, we read of a most Catholic, and most un-Protestant procedure. “God wrought by the hand of Paul more than common miracles. So that even there were brought from his body to the sick, handkerchiefs and aprons, and the diseases departed from them.” Acts 19:11-12. But you will notice that it was God who wrought these miracles. And we Catholics say that God can quite easily do similar things even in our own days. As a matter of historical fact, He has wrought such things throughout the course of the ages within the Catholic Church.
      • ivarfjeld says:
        Dear Augustine.
        You wrote:
        And if you look up 2 Kings 13:21, in your own Protestant version of the Bible, you will find that a dead man, who was being buried in the sepulchre of Elisha, was restored to life the moment his body came into contact with the bones of that great prophet of God.
        My comment:
        The editors of this site has debated this issue with an unknown number of Roman Catholic priests. The arguments are well know. Let me write a reminder:
        1. The bones of Elijah was not taken home to any Jew, neither exposed in homes, nor in any synagogue. Such a collection of bones for adoration, veneration or worshiped is banished from Judaism.
        2. When the Catholic religion makes a doctrine out of the bones of Elijah, we understand the origin of looting of graves, and collection of bones.
        3. Even if God worked miracles out of one (some) handkerchiefs, dos not means that God will do so with all other handkerchiefs. That is a short circuit. Please keep your hands off my handkerchiefs. If anyone starts to put some of my personal items on their shoulders and parade them through the streets, I will sue them in court.
        4. If anyone have the intention to loot my grave and put my skull for exposure inside a “Church”, please admit them to a mental hospital. Let all know that i was a living saint who obeyed Jesus the Messiah in words and actions, and do not approve of such spiritual perversions.
    • Brad says:
      FOOLISH FOOLISH FOOLISH,,,,,,,,Let me know the next time you got a skull & bones up for grabs…. so I can call the nearest pRIEST
  1. sueliz1 says:
    God can use a handkerchief or whatever He wants. The scripture does not say the article itself was made holy, should be paraded around the streets on shoulders, kept in boxes to be bowed before and venerated.

    The “holy corpse” east of Jerusalem

    The remains of an Orthodox priest named “St. John” is adored and venerated in the monastery of St. George in Wadi Qelt between Jerusalem and Jerico.

    Both the head skin and hair of this “saint” in kept for public veneration in the desert east of Jerusalem
    It would be grave injustice towards Roman Catholics, to claim that only they adore and venerates skull, corpses and bones.  In fact the various Orthodox Churches do the same.
    In the example of “St.John” located in a cave in the desert between Jerusalem and Jerico, it must also be added that the Roman Catholics at least cleanse their skulls, before putting them up for public display and worship-services.
    Here are some few more pictures:

    The place of worship is full of images and a corpse.

    The shoes might not be of the latest fashion.  The ancient pagan Assyrian sun wheel is displayed just in front of his toes.

    Of course, this is not consulting the spirit of the dead. Just a little bit kissing and touching of the glass mounter.
    A few hundred years ago, Roman Catholic priests boiled exhumed corpses in lye to get the rotten and dead meat separated from the skeleton. What the priests did with all the boiled meat has been deleted from official Church history. But there are examples of the boiled meat being re-buried, and the skeleton of the “saint” cut into pieces and sold as relics.
    It is great that many bloggers use Social Media to display what have been hidden in darkness for hundreds of years, believing they are writing about something “holy”. In this example from the monastery of St. George, the corpse is venerated as it looked when it was exhumed in 1960. Obviously pretty rotten, and absolutely not a venerable item for minor children.
    Let us as adults take a deeper look at the official story, and some pictures.
      In this cave – carved into the steep cliffs of the mountain, St. John spent his days in prayer and fasting, sleeping very little on a mat laid on a wooden board and eating little dry food. In this poor and lowly surrounding, St. John prayed for eight years, enduring cold, hunger, thirst, heat, diseases, deprivations and temptations of all kinds.
     His holy body was placed in a tomb where he had prepared ahead of time. At his death, multitudes of birds had miraculously gathered at the monastery of St. George during the memorial service.
     For twenty years, St. John’ body rested in the tomb of Saint Ann‘ Cave. In August 1980, by divine providence when his grave was opened, his body was found whole, incorrupt and fragrant. His relics were translated in great procession into St. George Monastery chapel and placed in a glass casket.

    If you ever enter into the desert, you will find the corpse inside this caved landscape east of Jerusalem.

    The Orthodox priests have built a monastery where people normally do not live.

    The “holy corpse” of St. John of Hozava born in Romania. He died in 1960.
    Even though the corpse have not been convincingly beautified, the Romanian Orthodox Church canonized the remains in 1992.
     For his holy life, the Holy Synod of the Romanian Orthodox Church at its meeting in June 20th 1992, proclaimed the canonization of Blessed John among the saints under the name “St. John the New,” “St. John Jacob from Neamt” or “the Hotzebite”, his commemoration takes place on August 5/18 each year.
    I am not sure “Orthodox Christians” pay any attention to the Bible, but rather live in lawlessness authorized by their priests and bishops. Jesus has the following message to all who consider this kind of tasteless religious sites for “places of holiness”.
     Matthew 23:27
    “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean.
    Written by Ivar

    Turks use cotton-corpse to curse their children

    March 16, 2012
    This old skeleton of Gregory of Nazianzus is used by Orthodox Christians in Istanbul to mock all who worship God in spirit and in truth.
    This corps in declared "holy" by Rome and Istanbul. It is supposed to be the remains of a saint.
    For all who love Jesus: Please do not copy Orthodox religious people, who are supposed to be a part of “Christianity”.
    Religious people have become bloggers. They take photos of what they have been told by their priest is “holiness”. Than they publish the pictures on the net for the whole World to see.
    Take a look at this old lady preparing to adore or venerate, a corpse that has been “decorated” with cotton balls and dressed up in fine linen.
    The old lady does the sign of the cross standing before the corpse.
    Than she bows down and kiss the silver coffin containing the 1700 year old skeleton.
    The "holy corpse" is exposed laying inside a silver coated coffin. The image of the sleeping "saint" on the outer wall.
    This is the official version of “cotton corpse saint”:
     Gregory of Nazianzus: 329 A.D – January 25, 389 or 390. A.D. Also known as Gregory the Theologian or Gregory Nazianzen.
    As a classically trained orator and philosopher he infused Hellenism into the early church, establishing the paradigm of Byzantine theologians and church officials.
    Gregory is a saint in both Eastern and Western Christianity. In the Roman Catholic Church he is numbered among the Doctors of the Church; in Eastern Orthodoxy and the Eastern Catholic Churches he is revered as one of the Three Holy Hierarchs, along with Basil the Great and John Chrysostom.
    On November 27, 2004, those relics, along with those of John Chrysostom, were returned to Istanbul (Constantinople) by Pope John Paul II, with the Vatican retaining a small portion of both. The relics are now enshrined in the Patriarchal Cathedral of St. George in the Fanar
    Source: Wikipedia
    This grandmother is not alone. She has brought her grandchild, to teach her how to worship idols.
    The grandmother gives the child a helping hand.
    Than the old lady lifts up the child to face the "cotton corpse".
    The family photographer gave his best shot, and shared it with the World.
    The little sweet girl must not obey her parents and grand parents when she becomes a youth. Nor must she obey the Pope who kept some parts of this corpse with him in Rome. All of them have brought a curse on their own head, and all who follow their example.
     Exodus 20:3-7

    “You shall have no other gods before me.
    You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
    You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
    Anyone who sincerely seek God shall find the truth. Jesus says that all who knock, shall face an open door.
    The problem is that people do not seek the truth.They relay on human traditions handed down through generations by bishops and priests.  At best faithful Catholics act in ignorance. Because of their lack of knowledge they die in their sins, and perish.
    But not this little girl.
    Let us pray that she will be able to break free from the generational curse, and the religious yoke she is placed under.
    I pray she will grow up and get her hand on a Bible. That she will open the Word of God, and be amazed. To see that God hate the sin of idolatry. That He wants us to worship Jesus His Son, and Him alone. That we must throw out idols in the sea, or sink them to the bottom of the closest river.
    To see this old lady worship a ghostly looking rotten corpse, must make some people see the spiritual sickness in the body of the Roman Catholic and Orthodox World.
    When the theology inside a “Church” is full of lies, the fruits that follows will be bad. Bad fruits will be cut of off and thrown into the eternal fire.
    If you want to live, you must never accept this kind of religious movements as Christianity. Not even for a second.
    The Pope and Orthodox patriarchs bless pure evil, and claim this to be holiness. They pave the way for the final antichrist.
    If you want to know more of worship on skulls and corpses in the Roman Catholic Church, follow this link.
    Many Protestant Christians are members of congregations that have accepted the Pope as a Christian leader.  You better WATCH OUT for the people who have deceived you.
    Written by Ivar