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The passing away of a thorn in Babylon America’s sin ful gay fresh: When America’s gays, atheists, sin promoters, and Christian postmodernists celebrate the passing way of Pastor Fred Phelps: Westboro Baptist Church Founder Dies At 84: Westboro Baptist Church Responds To Fred Phelps' Death: 'Your Dashed Hopes'
Westboro Baptist Church Responds To Fred Phelps' Death: 'Your Dashed Hopes' (STATEMENT)
Fred W. Phelps, Sr. Has Gone The Way of All Flesh, And Has Died on March 19, 2014
Westboro Baptist Church Issues the Following Commentary:
Psalm 2:1 ¶ Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
The
world-wide media has been in a frenzy during the last few days,
gleefully anticipating the death of Fred Waldron Phelps Sr. It has been
an unprecedented, hypocritical, vitriolic explosion of words.
Do they vainly hope for the death of his body? People die – that is the way of all flesh:
Psalm 90: 9 For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.
10
The days of our years are threescore years and ten [that would be 70];
and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years [80], yet is their
strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away …
12 ¶ So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
Our
lives are like a vapor; like the flower of the field that comes and
goes in its season. The fact is, that God almighty is the one that
appoints the precise measure of that season. He fashioned each of us
according to his righteous, unchangeable will and he will dispose of
each of us at his pleasure. Consider the scripture:
Deut. 32:39 ¶
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill,
and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can
deliver out of my hand.
Heb 9: 27-28 And as it is appointed unto
men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once
offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall
he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
So – the
death of Fred Phelps’ body, a man who preached a plain faithful doctrine
to an ever darkening world, is nothing but a vain, empty, hypocritical
hope for you.
It’s like every journalist in the world
simultaneously set aside what little journalistic integrity they have,
so that they could wait breathlessly for a rumor to publish:
in-fighting, succession plans, and power struggles, oh my! How
shameful! You’re like a bunch of little girls on the playground waiting
for some gossip!
Listen carefully; there are no power struggles
in the Westboro Baptist Church, and there is no human intercessor – we
serve no man, and no hierarchy, only the Lord Jesus Christ. No red
shoes, no goofy hat, and no white smoke for us; thank you very much.
No
board, no separate decision making body, just humble servants of God –
qualified according to the scriptures, and chosen by the church –
privileged to feed the sheep for a time. 2500 years ago, the Prophet
Jeremiah described this tabloid journalism quite well:
Jeremiah
20: 10-11 For I heard the defaming of many, fear on every side. Report,
say they, and we will report it. [who cares if it’s true: we’ve got
our twitter machines all ready to go!] All my familiars watched for my
halting, saying, Peradventure he will be enticed, and we shall prevail
against him, and we shall take our revenge on him. But the LORD is with
me as a mighty terrible one: therefore my persecutors shall stumble,
and they shall not prevail: they shall be greatly ashamed; for they
shall not prosper: their everlasting confusion shall never be forgotten.
Remember
that the Lord Jesus Christ warned us that a man’s foes will be they of
his own household: So again, there is nothing surprising about these
shenanigans, spurred on by faithless, ax-grinding, God-hating deserters
of the cross, and it amounts to nothing but vain, empty, hope.
God
forbid, if every little soul at the Westboro Baptist Church were to die
at this instant, or to turn from serving the true and living God, it
would not change one thing about the judgments of God that await this
deeply corrupted nation and world. That is the pinnacle of your hopes,
and by far the most vain. Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, or the
power of God.
There is only one hope for any human – inside or
outside of this little church – that God gives you repentance unto
salvation. We pray that the Lord will do just that for any of our
enemies whom he has predestined to eternal life. And for those who are
truly the enemies of God – ordained of old to such a condemnation – we
pray his righteous wrath and vengeance, wherein we rejoice.
Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
Amen
Fred Phelps Dead: Westboro Baptist Church Founder Dies At 84
However,
at least one family member seemed to dispute the reports of his
siblings, as attorney Jonathan Phelps told WIBW: "Pastor Phelps is doing
just fine." The network notes this could be a spiritual reference.
"I can tell you that Fred Phelps is having some health problems," WBC spokesman Steve Drain told the Lawrence Journal-World Sunday. "He's an old man, and old people get health problems."
A spokesperson for the Westboro Baptist Church was not immediately available for further comment Thursday.
Kors: Have you thought about what will happen when you die? Phelps: (Phelps chuckles.) I'm not planning on dying.
Kors: Well, everybody's going to die at some point. I'm wondering about your thoughts on going to heaven.
Phelps: The Lord himself should descend for me with the angels. I'm not looking for an undertaker — I'm looking for an uppertaker. Kors: Describe that heaven for me.
Phelps:
When the time comes, I will leave my old body. My new body will be a
part of God. That's our inheritance. God says, "They shall hunger no
more. They shall thirst no more." What's the matter with you? Don't you
know the Bible? You are about the most ignorant person I've ever seen.
More from AP:
TOPEKA,
Kan. (AP) — The Rev. Fred Phelps Sr., the fiery founder of a small
Kansas church who led outrageous and hate-filled protests that blamed
almost everything, including the deaths of AIDS victims and U.S.
soldiers, on America's tolerance for gay people, has died. He was 84.
Daughter
Margie Phelps told The Associated Press that Fred Phelps, whose actions
drew international condemnation, died around midnight Wednesday. She
didn't provide the cause of death or the condition that recently put him
in hospice care.
Throughout his life, Phelps and the Westboro
Baptist Church, a small congregation made up almost entirely of his
extended family, tested the boundaries of free speech, violating
accepted societal standards for decency in their unapologetic assault on
gays and lesbians. In the process, some believe he even helped the
cause of gay rights by serving as such a provocative symbol of
intolerance.
Phelps believed any misfortune, most infamously the
deaths of American soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, was God's
punishment for society's tolerance of homosexuality. He and his
followers carried forward their message bluntly, holding held signs at
funerals and public events that used ugly slurs and read "Thank God for
dead soldiers." God, he preached, had nothing but anger and bile for the
moral miscreants of his creation.
"Can you preach the Bible
without preaching the hatred of God?" Phelps asked in a 2006 interview
with The Associated Press. "The answer is absolutely not. And these
preachers that muddle that and use that deliberately, ambiguously to
prey on the follies and the fallacious notions of their people, that's a
great sin."
For those who didn't like the message or the tactics,
Phelps and his family had only disdain. "They need to drink a frosty
mug of shut-the-hell-up and avert their eyes," his daughter, Shirley
Phelps-Roper, once told a group of Kansas lawmakers.
The
activities of Phelps' church, unaffiliated with any larger denomination,
inspired a federal law and laws in more than 40 states limiting
protests and picketing at funerals. He and a daughter were even barred
from entering Britain for inciting hatred.
But in a major
free-speech ruling in 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the church
and its members were protected by the U.S. Constitution's First
Amendment and could not be sued for monetary damages for inflicting pain
on grieving families.
Yet despite that legal victory, some gay
rights advocates believe all the attention Phelps generated served to
advance their cause.
Sue Hyde, a staff member at the National Gay
and Lesbian Task Force, said plenty of churches and ministers preach a
message that attacks gay people. But Phelps and his family had "taken
this out on the streets," forcing people to confront their own views and
rousing a protective instinct in parents and friends of gays and
lesbians.
"It's actually a wonderful recruiting tool for a
pro-equality, pro-social acceptance movement," she said. "To the Phelps
family, that is not particularly important or relevant. They are not
there to save us. They are there to advise us that we are doomed."
Once
seen as the church's unchallengeable patriarch, Phelps' public
visibility waned as he grew older and he became less active in the
church's pickets, with daughters Shirley Phelps-Roper and Margie Phelps —
an attorney who argued the church's case before the U.S. Supreme Court —
most often speaking for Westboro. In the fall of 2013, even they were
replaced by a church member not related to Phelps by blood as Westboro's
chief spokesman.
In Phelps' later years, the protests themselves
were largely ignored or led to counter demonstrations that easily
shouted down Westboro's message. A motorcycle group known as the Patriot
Guard arose to shield mourners at military funerals from Westboro's
notorious signs. At the University of Missouri in 2014, hundreds of
students gathered to surround the handful of church members who traveled
to the campus after football player Michael Sam came out as gay.
Phelps'
final weeks were shrouded in mystery. A long-estranged son, Nate
Phelps, said his father had been voted out of the congregation in the
summer of 2013 "after some sort of falling out," but the church refused
to discuss the matter. Westboro's spokesman would only obliquely
acknowledge this month that Phelps had been moved into a care facility
because of health problems.
Asked if he was surrounded by family
or friends at his death, Margie Phelps would only say that "all of his
needs were met when he died." There will be no funeral, she said.
Fred
Waldron Phelps was born in Meridian, Miss., on Nov. 13, 1929. He was
raised a Methodist and once said he was "happy as a duck" growing up. He
was an Eagle Scout, ran track and graduated from high school at age 16.
Selected
to attend the U.S. Military Academy, Phelps never made it to West
Point. He once said he went to a Methodist revival meeting and felt the
calling to preach. Ordained a Baptist minister in 1947, he met his wife
after he delivered a sermon in Arizona, and they were married in 1952.
Phelps
was a missionary and pastor in the western United States and Canada
before settling in Topeka in 1955 and founding his church. He earned his
law degree from Washburn University in Topeka in 1964, focused on civil
rights issues.
But in 1979, the Kansas Supreme Court stripped him
of his license to practice in state courts, concluding he'd made false
statements in court documents and "showed little regard" for
professional ethics. He called the court corrupt and insisted he saw its
action as a badge of honor. He later agreed to stop practicing in
federal court, too.
Westboro remained a small church throughout
his life, with less than 100 members, most related to the patriarch or
one of his 13 children by blood or marriage. Its website says people are
free to visit weekly services to get more information, though the
congregation can vote at any time to remove a member who they decide is
no longer a recipient of God's grace.
The church's building in
central Topeka is surrounded by a wooden fence, and family members are
neighbors, their yards enclosed by the same style of fence in a manner
that suggests a sealed-off compound.
Most of his children were
unflinchingly loyal, with some following their father into the law.
While some estranged family members reported experiencing severe
beatings and verbal abuse as children, the children who defended their
father said his discipline was in line with biblical standards and never
rose to the level of abuse.
Phelps could at times, in a courtly
and scholarly manner, explain his religious beliefs and expound on how
he formed them based on his reading of the Bible. He could also belittle
those who questioned him and professed not to care whether people liked
the message, or even whether they listened. He saw himself as
"absolutely 100 percent right."
"Anybody who's going to be preaching the Bible has got to be preaching the same way I'm preaching," he said in 2006.
Despite
his avowedly conservative views on social issues, and the early
stirrings of the clout Christian evangelicals would enjoy within the
Kansas Republican Party, Phelps ran as a Democrat during his brief
dabble as a politician. He finished a distant third in the 1990
gubernatorial primary, and later ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate
and Topeka mayor.
It was about that time that Westboro's public
crusade against homosexuality began. The protests soon widened and came
to include funerals of AIDS victims and any other event that would draw a
large crowd, from concerts of country singer Vince Gill to the Academy
Awards.
He reserved special scorn for conservative ministers who
preached that homosexuality was a sin but that God nevertheless loved
gays and lesbians. When the Rev. Jerry Falwell died in 2007, Westboro
members protested at his funeral with the same sorts of signs they held
up outside services a decade earlier for Matthew Shepard, a gay
University of Wyoming student who was beaten to death in 1998.
"They're all going to hell," Phelps said in a 2005 interview of Christians who refuse to condemn gay people as he did.
It
wasn't just the message, but also the mocking tone that many found to
be deliberately cruel. Led by Phelps, church members thanked God for
roadside explosive devices and prayed for thousands more casualties,
calling the deaths of military personnel killed in the Middle East a
divine punishment for a nation it believed was doomed by its tolerance
for gay people.
State and federal legislators responded by
enacting restrictions on such protests. A Pennsylvania man whose
20-year-old Marine son died in 2006 sued the church after it picketed
the son's funeral and initially won $11 million. In an 8-1 ruling, the
U.S. Supreme Court declared in 2011 that the First Amendment protects
even such "hurtful" speech, though it undoubtedly added to the father's
"already incalculable grief."
"The Westboro Baptist Church is
probably the vilest hate group in the United the State of America,"
Heidi Beirich, research director for the Montgomery, Ala.-based Southern
Poverty Law Center, told The Associated Press in July 2011. "No one is
spared, and they find people at their worst, most terrible moments of
grief, and they throw this hate in their faces. It's so low."
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