Tuesday 3 July 2012

THE NEW APOSTLES: PHARISEES OR ROMAN CATHOLIC BIGOTS


 

THE NEW APOSTLES

Loren Davis 

 
THE NEW APOSTLES AND PROPHETS SAY THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE Old Testament PROPHETS AND New Testament APOSTLES.

C. Peter Wagner is the founder of this movement.  Rick Joyner, Mike Bickle of IHOP, Bill Hammond and Dutch Sheets are some of the major ‘apostles’ working directly working under him.

Their organization is called the ICA, international coalition of apostles.  There are 500   major apostles in ICA.  Each of these professing apostles validates each other as to their apostleship.  Other minor apostles work under them.

They believe in what they call THE Apostolic succession.   The truth is that the The apostles never appointed successors.  Nothing like this is referred to in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 12:29 talks about New Testament apostles.  The fact is that modern day apostles are not the same  as the original 12 apostles in the new testament.

THE ‘NEW’ APOSTLES say they have the same Apostolic anointing as the original NEW Testament apostles. They say they are superior to Paul, David, Peter, James, John because they believe they have a higher revelation from the Holy Ghost.

The Bible says that THE NEW JERUSALEM will have the names of the Twelve Apostles in the twelve foundations of the New Jerusalem, Rev 21:14.  The names of PETER WAGNER, RICK JOYNER, MIKE BICKLE, and their self-appointed apostles names WILL NOT BE IN the foundation of the New Jerusalem!  There are only 12 foundations, not 500.  Even though the Gifts of the Spirit are for today, these men are not on the same plane as the Twelve who gave us the New Testament and are operating by ‘another spirit’. 2 Cor. 11:4.

THE NEW APOSTLES BELIEVE THEY ARE TO GOVERN THE CHURCH

They say doctrines divide and call for UnityIt is apparent that their purpose for calling for this unity is so all Christian leaders will come under them as being the heads, the final governing authority of Christianity and interpreting scriptures.

The new apostles are preaching Unity at all costs, including pUTTING ASIDE SOUND DOCTRINE.  tHEY ARE SAYING, ‘Unify or else!” They are literally intimidating Christians to come under them. They boycott preachers who refuse to come under their authority. This is very similar to the Roman Church of the Middle Ages which was totally intolerant of Christians being outside the Roman Church.

They use Ephesians 2:20 to establish their credibility for this.

“And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;” KJV

Their emphasis is on the apostles. What this scripture is referring to is the church is built on the foundation of the scriptures given by the apostles and prophets, the Bible, with Christ being the cornerstone.

Isa 9:6 “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:”  KJV

The church is built on christ and the biblE.  The bible is the law of god.  Psa. 1

Matt 16:16-18 “And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.  …And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” KJV

The ‘new’ apostles are doing the exact same thing that the Roman Church has done with this scripture, saying the Church was built on the apostle Peter and not built on Christ.  Now the ‘new’ apostles are doing virtually the same thing, saying the Church is now built on them.

‘New’ Apostles see themselves as guardians of apostlic truth.  That is not true! The NEW TESTAMENT is the guardian of Apostolic Truth.

2 Peter 1:20-21 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” KJV

They say that theY greatest generation of apostles and prophets who ever lived.  THEY say that they ARE EVEN greater than the ORIGINAL 12 Apostles and the oLD tESTAMENT prophetsWithout a doubt, they are a legend in their own minds, virtual egomaniacsJohn the Baptist said about Jesus, “He must increase, but I must decrease.”  Jesus said that there was not a greater man than John the Baptist.  These ‘new’ apostles can’t compare to John the Baptist.  They want to increase at the expense of decreasing Jesus.

Prov 16:18 “Pride goeth before destruction , and an haughty spirit before a fall.” KJV

Matt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor inspirit:  for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”

Matt 11:29  “..learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart:”  KJV

Lk 20:46  Jesus said, “BEWARE OF THE SCRIBES, which desire to walk in LONG ROBES and love greetings in the markets, and the HIGH SEATS in the synagogues, and the CHIEF ROOMS AT FEASTS; which DEVOUR WIDOWS HOUSES: and FOR A SHEW MAKE LONG PRAYERSthe same shall have greater damnation.”

Great leaders of the past, Wesley, Luther, etc., never called themselves apostles.  Today in most of the Charismatic Movement, IF YOU ARE NOT AN APOSTLE OR PROPHET, YOU ARE NOTHING. Little attention is given to the evangelist, pastor or teacher. 

It’s interesting that these SELF APPOINTED PROPHETS and APOSTLES love to use big titles. Elijah, Paul and the other prophets and apostles didn’t use big titles.

The ‘new’ apostles claim Elijah’s mantle.   Yet they have never parted the waters nor done anything close to Elijah. They extol Kenneth Hagan and believe he was a prophet.

They talk about the third wave of the holy ghost.

Peter Wagner says he believes in the Holy Ghost but not in tongues as the initial evidenceThis is the same as the mainline denominational pastors believe.  Wagner is a Presbyterian. 

The ‘new’ apostles are apart of the LATTER RAIN MOVEMENT which sprung up in the 40’s and went through the 60’s. William Branham, John G. Lake and Paul Cain were part of this  movement.

THEY EMPHASIZE THEIR ANOINTING, THEIR POWER,  NOT THE ANOINTED ONE, CHRIST.

They see themselves as the spiritually elite, the enlightened ones, who ‘have the spirit without measure’.  They believe they are spiritually superior to everyone else.

They teach that the five fold ministry is now totally restored to perfection and is now a complete with visible unity under them. 

The Latter Rain Movement teaches that apostles and prophets must be restored.  They call themselves Restorationists, THUS THE NAME ‘THE APOSTOLIC REFORMATION’.

GOD TALKS TO THEM

One of their major tell-tale signs of the new apostles and prophets is that they say GOD TALKS TO THEM AND THEY SEE GOD.

They say that they hear the audible voice of God, and that God directly communicates with them, His apostles and prophets. They often say, GOD TOLD ME and some of them claim to see God the Father FACE TO FACE

Jesus said regarding the FATHER on this issue

Jn 5:37 ‘NEITHER HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY TIME NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE”

For those who say they have seen God, either they have had a counterfeit occultic experience or they are outright lying, according to what Jesus said.

IT WAS NOT THE FATHER TALKING TO THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS.  IT WAS JESUS, ‘THE WORD’.  JN 1.

Ex 3:14 “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM : and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.”

John 8:58 “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”

WHAT ABOUT THE VOICE FROM HEAVEN?

Matt 3:17 “And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”  KJV

Mt. 1:18 “When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.” 

Jesus was conceived in Mary by the Holy Ghost.  Remember, the Holy Ghost is a part of the Godhead.  The Godhead works together in unison.

John’s Revelation Rev 1:10 “I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,” KJV

This does not say John audibly heard the voice.  It says that he was ‘IN THE SPIRIT’ when he heard it.

Paul said, 2 Cor 12:3 “And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)” KJV  The fact is, it was the Lord communicating with his spirit.

*The Lord definitely can and does speak to us in our spirits, but people today do not literally physically hear the voice of God. We can definitely hear from God though His Word and be led by the Spirit.  The Lord definitely speaks to our inner man.

Rom 8:14 “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.” KJV

THE ‘NEW’ APOSTLES EMPHAZIZE THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT. 1 Co. 12.  We know the Gifts of the Spirit are real.  The problem is their abuse.

The ‘new’ apostles and prophets misuse scriptures and Gifts to take control God’s people.  One scripture they like to use to control is…

Amos 3:7 “Surely the Lord God will do nothing , but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.”  KJV

The Bible’s warning against saying ‘God told me’, when he did not speak.

*Ezekiel 13:2-9 “Son of man, PROPHESY AGAINST THE PROPHETS of Israel that PROPHESY, and say unto them THAT PROPHESY OUT OF THEIR OWN HEARTS, Hear ye the word of the Lord God; Thus saith the Lord God; WOE UNTO THE FOOLISH PROPHETS, THAT FOLLOW THEIR OWN SPIRIT, AND HAVE SEEN NOTHING! O Israel, THY PROPHETS are like the foxes in the deserts.”

*6 “They have SEEN VANITY AND LYING DIVINATION, saying, THE LORD SAITH:  AND THE LORD HATH NOT SENT THEM:  and they HAVE MADE OTHERS HOPE THAT THEY WOULD CONFIRM THE WORD. Have ye NOT SEEN A VAIN VISION, AND HAVE YE NOT SPOKEN A LYING DIVINATION, whereas ye say, THE LORD SAITH IT; ALBEIT I HAVE NOT SPOKEN. Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because YE HAVE SPOKEN VANITY, AND SEEN LIES, therefore I AM AGAINST YOU, saith the Lord God. And mine hand shall be upon THE PROPHETS THAT SEE VANITY AND THAT DIVINE LIES:  THEY SHALL NOT BE IN THE ASSEMBLY OF MY PEOPLE...”

*10  “…THEY HAVE SEDUCED MY PEOPLE…
THEY say that they SEE JESUS physically in person

Kenneth Hagin claims to have seen Jesus physically eight times, even in his bedroom. 

Regarding this, Jesus warned in Mt 24:26  “If they say he (Christ) is in the desert, go not; if he (Christ) is in THE SECRET PLACE (bedroom), BELIEVE IT NOT”.

Matt 24:23 “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.” KJV

The Twelve Apostles who were with Jesus saw Him in the flesh even up to and after the resurrection when He appeared to them and audibly talked to them, 1 Co 15:3.  The Apostle Paul had an encounter with Jesus on the Damascus Road.  There are no other biblical records of people physically seeing or audibly hearing Jesus talk after He ascended to heaven.

*I believe people can and do have visions of Jesus, but according to what Jesus said, they do not physically see Him now.

They SPIRITUALIZE SCRIPTURES and teach the scriptures don’t literally mean what they say.

When Jesus spoke in parables He made it clear it was a parable, otherwise He spoke straight forward.

In the name of the Deeper life and revelation of the holy ghost, the ‘new’ apostles give scriptures bizarre meanings.  The effect of this is that the Bible can mean anything you want it to.  It has no absolute meaning.  Words mean nothing.  In effect, there is no absolute truth.

They say sometimes God often BYpasses the mind, that we don’t need to understand.

Matthew 22:37 “Love the Lord your heart and soul and you're mind.”

Prov 3:13 “Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

2 Tim 2:7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.” KJV

If you don’t understand you can be manipulated and misused.

ONE Of theSE ‘NEW’ APOSTLES referS to bible doctrines as Old wine skins.   Can you imagine such a frontal attack on the Bible?

They say that we don't need a doctrinal police force.   They call Bible doctrine baggage.

2 John 10 “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine , receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:” KJV

Acts 2:42,  “…continued in the apostles doctrine,

2 Jn 9 says, “He that hath not the doctrine of Christ hath not god”

one of the ‘NEW’ APOSTLES, Chuck Pierce, has said that the new apostles and prophets are on a higher level of inspiration than the New Testament Scriptures.  He justifies this by saying that they have the same Holy Ghost that they had.

This sounds like GNOSTICISM, which means a higher knowledge than the Bible.  In the name of the Holy Ghost and spirituality, pagan gnosticism infiltrated some of the early Church.   Gnosticism is the foundation of Luciferianism which exalts Lucifer as ‘the benevolent god’, and demeans Adonai as being ‘the mean judging god’, because He has laws.

Because of this gnostic type attitude towards the Bible, they have taken the liberty to bring about their own revelations and doctrines into Christianity, even contradicting and defying scriptures.   Some of them deny the Trinity; the blood atonement, and the inerrancy of the Scriptures.  Some of them claim to even communicate with the dead:  past prophets, apostles or evangelists and even claim to get their anointing from them.  The Bible calls this  ‘necromancy’ and forbids this practice.

Deut 18:11-12 “…a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord:” KJV

But these ‘new’ apostles, believe they are exempt from these scriptures, because they believe that they the ‘new’ apostles and prophets are now the final authority even above the Bible, the mediators between men and God.  Again, they are taking Christ’s place.

1 Tim 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” KJV

*The ‘New Apostles’ have the Roman Catholic works of the mystics and monks in their bookstores. (See the article:  ‘The Roman Churches Disagreements with the Bible’ www.lorendavis.com)

They teach that the ‘Common man‘ can't understand Scriptures without them, the apostles and prophetsThis emulates the teachings of the Catholic Church during the Middle Ages when it outlawed the Bible by saying that the ‘common man’ could not understand the scriptures without the learned priests.

They Manipulate the Bible in the name of Revelation, Rhema, and put Rhema above logos, the written Word of God, the Bible.  Now logos doesn’t judge or try rhema, but rhema judges AND TRIES logos.  They are continually finding fault with the Bible, saying it is full of errors.

2 Peter 1:20 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” KJV

ONE OF THE MAIN WAYS The ‘new’ apostles deceive IS by giving sound doctrinal statements, but IN PRACTICe teach AND DO opposite THEIR STATEMENT OF FAITH.

To these ‘new’ apostles the Scriptures have no objective meaningThey speak about revelation, The Deeper Life, mysticism and illumination which comes from the occult and the New Age. They spiritualize the scriptures to absurdity until their meanings are completely lost and the Bible becomes a farce.

They SAY THAT THEY ARE continually HEARING THE VOICE OF GOD, AUDIBLY AND SPIRITUALLY, even when WHAT THEY SAY god is say disagrees with the Bible.

They believe that their Prophecies are equal to the Scriptures IN AUTHORITY.  IN OTHER WORDS, THEIR WORDS ARE  PART OF AN OPEN CANON. They believe that their words are equal to scripture.  They believe their words are literally ‘the Word of God’.

Tommy Tenney in his book the ‘God chasers’ says we don't want to just study from the moldy pages of what God has done.  What Tenney is saying is that we need to go OUTSIDE THE BIBLE to learn about God.  In not so subtle a way Tenney is calling the Bible ‘moldy pages’ or irrelevant.   What an insult to God’s Word!

They believe THAT the Bible has many errors and use many CORRUPT TRANSLATIONS.   They despise the KJV.  (See the article:  ‘Changing the Bible’ www.lorendavis.com)

THEY SAY THEY ARE LIKE THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS, but don’t want the accountability that the Old Testament prophets had.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 says,  “if a prophet prophesies falsely he is to be put to death.” They do not see that they are accountable to the Bible.  Since ‘God is talking to them and the Lord is never wrong, therefore they are never wrong even when they disagree with the scriptures.  You cannot question the anointed ones.  They do not believe in the sufficiency of the Scriptures, but believe in their own sufficiency as the final authority of Christianity. 

The temptation to Eve was to question the word of god, “hath God said”, Ge 3:1.

THE ‘NEW’ APOSTLES ARE THEOLOGICAL LIBERALS who believe that the Bible is unreliable and full of errors.  They have anointed themselves as ‘the apostles’, ‘the prophets’, and consider themselves omniscient and infallible.

That defies the scriptures, Prov 30:5 “Every word of God is pure.” KJV

They downplay bible doctrine

One of these ‘new’ apostles Francis said,  “We have filled people with doctrines instead of deity, we have given them manuals, instead of Emmanuelle.”

That might sound good, but it is blasphemous. Bible doctrine is nothing more than the teachings of the Bible; the teachings of Christ.

Mark 8:38 Jesus said,  “Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed,” KJV

John 7:16 “Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.” KJV

2 Jn 9 “He that hath not the doctrine of Christ hath not God”

2 John 10 ”If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”

One of the New Apostles  refers to the Bible as yesterday's manna; which means, ‘Stinking and worm infested’.  It is impossible to be saved with this attitude
towards the Bible.
They believe Paul's words are below Jesus words in scriptures.

2 Tim 3:16 “All scripture is given by inspiration of God,”  KJV

To substantiate and justify their bizarre unscriptural revelations they use John 1:50 “Thou shalt see greater things than these.”  John 21:25  “And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.” …

So, according to them, they say we get the rest of his words by revelation BY the Holy Spirit.  In other words the Holy Spirit reveals things not written in Bible, even things that contradict the Bible.

With this belief, you can create your own religion.  In effect, the is Bible is virtually irrelevant and meaningless to them.

Benny Hinn’s book ‘Good Morning Holy Spirit’, is teaching us to pray to the Holy Spirit. This is totally unscriptural.

Matt 6:6 “when thou prayest…pray to thy FATHER…” KJV

John 16:23 “Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, He will give it you.” KJV

The BIBLE NEVER TEACHES US TO PRAY TO THE HOLY GHOST.  The Bible teaches us that the Holy Ghost will help us when we pray to the Father in Jesus’ name. Ro 8:26

WHEN THEY TALK OF signs and wonders’, they are not referring to what Jesus talked about in Mark 16:15 healing the sick, casting out devils, etc., but Bizarre manifestations such as:  shadows on wall, stigmata, feathers falling, white birds appearing like the Holy Ghost, shaking, etc.  This has made Pentecost a farce and nothing like it was in the New Testament.  This has virtually destroyed the credibility of the true miracle ministries and the operation of the Gifts of the Spirit.

in the name of speaking by the holy ghost They say they are speaking the very word of God. 

They say they don’t bring new doctrines, yet they do. They undermine THE central truths of the Bible.

Prophetically THEY ARE inventing new doctrines.   They say the apostles and prophets established the doctrine.  They claim New Testament Apostolic authority.  Again, the Bible never talks about an ‘apostolic succession’.  Today’s modern day apostles do not operate on the same authority of the original 12 apostles who gave us the canon, the scriptures.

They will not allow their doctrines to be judged. They say their enemies who judge their prophecies, revelations and teachings have the Jezebel spirit, the Judas spirit, the antichrist spirit.

They defy the scriptures. 1 Cor 14:29 “Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.” KJV

Regarding their attitude towards the Bible, in essence it is lockstep with the secular educational system which has even outlawed the Bible in the classroom in America and openly teaches opposite the Bible.  Most seminaries and Bible Schools are also some of the biggest enemies of the Bible.  They are incessantly attacking its accuracy.

THEY EXALT THE HOLY SPIRT ABOVE JESUS

The ‘new’ apostles and prophets talk about the Holy Ghost ten times more than Jesus.

John 14:26 “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance , whatsoever I have said unto you.”  The Bible contains the things that Jesus said.

Acts 1:8 “But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me” KJV  The purpose of receiving the Holy Ghost is to witness about Jesus.

The fact is that that it is not the Holy Ghost but Jesus who is our Messiah, Savior, Redeemer, King, etc.  The Holy Ghost’s job on earth as well as Christ’s minister’s is to exalt Jesus.

The ‘new’ apostles teach KINGDOM AUTHORITY, that is: They say a spirit Being (God and Christ) cannot function on the Earth without flowing through a human body; therefore, God, christ, can do nothing on earth unless they work through a man who is alive on earth now.  They say that God has to have a man's permission to operate on the earth. This is Dominion or Kingdom Now theology which is ‘man centered’, not Christ centered. It appeals to the humanistic teaching of self-esteem. (The Faith Movement teaches this.  See the article:  ‘The Teaching Man is a God’ www.combineharvesting.com)

They reduce God to the level of a man. They look at God as weak and limited who can do nothing without us. They focus on their own greatness not Christ

Gal 1:7 “Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.” KJV

INTERCESSION

They have a heavy emphasis on intercession and 24/7 ‘Praise and Worship’.

We know the Bible talks about the Spirit making intercession for us and praise and worship.

Rom 8:26-27 “Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.” KJV

But the ‘new’ apostles, particularly IHOP, teaches that it is OUR INTERCESSION, 24/7, that gets us to the throne room of God and gets us God’s favor.  They get heavy into Spiritual warfare.

This literally makes WORKS our entrance to God’s favor and miracles.

Eph 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  Not of works , lest any man should boast.” KJV

Eph 3:11-12 “According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:  In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.” KJV

IN UGANDA THEY HAVE A PLACE CALLED ‘PRAYER MOUNTAIN’.
Christians come from all over Uganda and Africa come to pray and intercede at Prayer Mountain.  What is interesting is that instead of spending much time praying, they meet prophets there who are prophesying over them.  A pastor friend of ours wife went to Prayer Mountain.  There she met another pastor.  She said the Holy Spirit told them that they were true mates, so she went home and divorced her pastor husband.  This is not an isolated incident.

It is interesting, that African ancestral religions for centuries have taught Africans to go to the mountains and pray to the mountains to get answers to their prayers.

John 4:21-24 “Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” KJV

This has led many Christians into Contemplative, mantra repetitious prayers which comes from Buddhism and Hinduism. 

Matt 6:6-7 “But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” KJV

Mk 11:24  “When ye pray, believe ye shall receive, and ye shall have it.”

THE NEW APOSTLES FOCUS ON BREAKING SPIRITUAL CURSES

The truth is that when we come to Christ, at that moment, the curse is broken.  ‘We overcome now by the word of our testimony and the blood of the Lamb’.  Rev. 12:11. We don’t get curses broken by some witchcraft type incantation or by works.

Gal 3:13 “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse…

Some of the new apostles teach: cleansing property; prophetic decrees; release of power by words; gaining spiritual inheritances that belong to aborted babies, etc.  Nothing is scriptural about this.  They pervert scripture to gain control over people.

mANY FOCUS ON Angelic visitations
Col 2:18 “Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels , intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,” KJV

Again, the issue is they are emphasizing angels above Jesus.

MANY OF THEM TALK ABOUT Dreams and visions
We know that god can and does give spiritual dreams and visions.

Joel 2:28 “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams , your young men shall see visions:”

But many dreams and visions are not of God. 

1 John 4:1 “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:”

Many are led by visions and dreams instead of the Bible.  This can prove deadly.  Some dreams and visions are caused by eating too many beans late at night; drugs or demon spirits.

THE ‘NEW’ APOSTLES, in the name of having spiritual experiences,  OFTEN PRACTICE metaphysics and mysticism OF EASTERN RELIGIONS. what is so deadly about this is that they do this in the name of THE HOLY GHOST.

THEY control WEAK CHRISTIANS by fear and superstition WHO ARE NOT FOUNDED IN  THE WORD OF GOD, the bible.  If their doctrines do not line up with the Bible, you can take it to the bank that they are false apostles and false prophets. 2 Jn 9

HEAVEN

SOME OF THEM DECLARE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TO HEAVEN.  They say that they can penetrate heaven to get secrets. They talk about open heavens and that heavenly visitations are a norm to THEM.

There is no dispute that people can and do have dreams and visions about heaven.

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PEOPLE PHYSICALLY GOING TO HEAVEN?

Jn 3:13 Jesus said, “NO MAN HATH ASCENDED TO HEAVEN, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.” 

Jesus said that He is the ONLY ONE who has been to heaven who walked on earth afterwards. When Jesus said, ‘No man hath ascended to heaven’, He was talking about people who have not died but are alive on earth right now; that they have not yet been to heaven.   We know as children of God when we die we will then go to heaven.

2 Cor 5:8 “We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.” KJV

We know in Old Testament times that people went to Paradise, but it wasn’t til Jesus’ death and resurrection that people went to heavenEph 4:8

THE CHURCH

THEY TEACH THAT ‘The church’ is now ‘Christ’ on the Earth.

For the Church to be Christ on earth would mean that Christ is reincarnated. The belief in   reincarnation comes from Buddhism, Hinduism and the New Age.   The leaders of the Faith Movement teach that we are the INCARNATION of God as much as Jesus Christ.  (See the article:  ‘The Teaching that Man is a God’ www.combineharvesting.com)
They believe in the Deification of man, that MAN IS A GOD. They get this from the major teachers of the Faith Movement, Hinduism and the New Age. (See the article:  ‘The Teaching Man is a God’ www.combineharvesting.com)

One of the major world evangelist said, “When you see me, you see Jesus.  When you see me, you see God.”  Another major televangelist teaches that ‘We are equal to God, equal to Christ.’  The pastor of the largest church in Nairobi, Kenya said on television, “You are Jesus.  Tell the person next to you, you are Jesus.”  We know the Bible says ‘Christ in us’, but WE ARE NOT JESUS.  That is blasphemy!  This is New Age! (See article:  ‘The Teaching that Man is a God’).

They teach that the ENDTIME church is literally the fullness of Christ.

William Branham is one that taught this. 

This would make the Church the Savior of the world, not Christ.  This is exactly what the Roman Church teaches about itself.  To be saved you must belong to the Roman Church.

The Church is the ‘spiritual’ body of Christ. The Bible teaches that Christ is the Head of the Church. Eph:23.  For the Church to be Christ would mean that the Church is headless.  Anything without a head is dead. Christianity without Christ is dead.

It’s impossible that we are the fullness of Christ! We can’t walk on water; walk through walls; we are not the Savior of the world. 

1 Cor 13:9 says, “For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.” KJV

The new apostles teach that Jesus failed his mission on earth, but the church won't.   They teach that the church will conquer the kingdoms of the world and get the dowry for the bridegroom, Jesus.  There is nothing close to that in scriptures. This is a byproduct of the prosperity gospel. (This issue will be handled in the article:  ‘Kingdom Now, Dominion Now’ www.lorendavis.com)

THEY say THAT they ARE ‘Joel’s end time army’, THE last days church.   This is a gross perversion of Joel 2.  The ‘end time army’ that the book of Joel talked about is the saints returning with the Lord of hosts, Christ, conquering at the Battle of Armageddon.  Read Joel 2.

they Deny the physical return of Christ
They say Jesus cannot come back until the church gets it right.

They use Acts 3:20-21 to substantiate this claim:  “And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Again, they put ‘the Church’ in Christ’s stead.

They are Kingdom now,  DOMINIONISTS, redefine bible prophecy AND MOST don’t believe in the rapture. They talk of ‘kingdom glory and power’.  (This will be dealt with in the article ‘ Kingdom now,  redefining Bible prophecy’)

They don’t believe…

1 Thess 4:16 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:” KJV

THEY BELIEVE THAT Christ will come againin’ the church not ‘for’ the church.

THEY BELIEVE Christ WILL not conquer, BUT The church WILL conquer for Christ.

That contradicts the Bible:

Heb 2:8 “Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.” KJV

they believe they are apart of the Melchizedek priesthood

Melchizedek was a foreshadow of Christ.  They say that they are now of the Melchizedek priesthood. The truth is that the Melchizedek priesthood belongs to Christ alone. They consistently maximize their self-appointed position and minimize the uniqueness of Jesus.

THEY SAY We will take the world for God.

They are not really talking of winning the world to Christ.  They mean that economically and politically they will take over the world in God’s name and rule.

THEY ARE TERRITORIAL AND SEE THEMSELVES AS ‘the  Gates of the cities’…

…the bosses of Christianity.  You have to come through them and give them, have them approve of what you are teaching and must give them their cut to be allowed to preach.  In effect, they are exalting themselves to be The HEAD OF THE CHURCH, the neo-Protestant and Pentecostal popes who are not that much different than the Roman Church.  The 500 Apostles are their Charismatic College of Cardinals.

The truth is, Eph 5:23, “Christ is the head of the church:”  KJV

They believe that the ‘new’ apostles will purge the Earth of all wickedness and rebellion

Luke 3:16, 17 Speaking of Jesus, “Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.” KJV

The ‘new’ apostles are putting themselves in Christ’s place.

THEY SAY the ‘new’ apostles will judge the church

John 5:22 “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:”

Again, they replace Christ with themselves.

They talk of heaven on earth.

This is the same language of the New Age. This captures the young and naïve Christians who have been caught up in the ‘prosperity gospel, the humanistic ‘this world’ gospel; i.e.:  ‘YOUR BEST LIFE NOW’, Joel Osteen.  This is ‘another gospel’.  2 Cor.11:4.

they will redeem creation and restore the Earth

Rev 21:1 “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.” KJV

The ‘new’ apostles are following the same thinking of the New Age, that man is going to save the earth and bring in heaven on earth.

According to the Bible, it is Jesus the Christ who will restore the earth. Rev. 21:1.

SOME OF The ‘NEW’ APOSTLES BELIEVE THEY will overcome death itself

That’s not what the Bible says,

1 Cor 15:26-27 “The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.  For HE (Christ) hath put all things under his feet”, not some so-called apostles feet.

If you remove Jesus Christ from Christianity you have nothing. All cults refer to Jesus and the Bible, but pervert His teachings and minimize Him.  Our salvation, eternal destiny is determined by what we believe about Jesus and the Bible.

THE ‘NEW’ APOSTLES ARE SAYING THAT THERE WILL BE A CIVIL WAR IN CHRISTIANITY

They say that there will be a change in Christianity; that is, a new definition of Christianity.  They say, “God is changing Christianity”.   “GOD IS DOING A NEW THING”.  The war they are waging is to literally remove belief in the Bible and the divinity of Christ from Christianity.

That contradicts the scriptures.

Luke 21:33 “Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.” KJV

Rev 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life , and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” KJV

Heb 13:8 “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”

Mal 3:6 “For I am the Lord, I change not;”

WARNING  

THE ‘NEW’ APOSTLES TALK nothing about suffering for Christ or taking up your cross; the blood; or keeping God’s Commandments; unless it is just trying to obtain God’s favor by works.

Matt 7:15 Jesus said, “Beware of false prophets , which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”  KJV

Matt 24:24 Jesus said, “For there shall arise false Christs (anointed ones), and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” KJV

Jude 4 “For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.”  KJV

Jude 13 “Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.”  KJV

Rev 2:2 “and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles , and are not, and hast found them liars:” KJV

Note:  Thanks to Keith Gibson’s book ‘Wandering Stars’ for his excellent research which has assisted me on this article.



ALSO SEE,

Wandering Stars: Contending for the Faith with the New Apostles and Prophets.