Thursday, 3 October 2013

New Age Prosperity Pimp preacher Dr. Myles Munroe coming Kampala(Uganda) on October 8th , 2013 to deliver a message from satan, ‘What is God saying to the church today’ for 50,000 Uganda shillings each

Dr. Munroe for Kampala Independence Business Forum

Celebrated International televangelist Dr Myles Munroe is set to jet in the country for two grand conventions that will wrap up the national year of jubilee, which ends on October 9, as well as launch the journey to the next Jubilee in 2062.
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Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles’ first ever two-day visit to Uganda is being enabled by Uganda Jubilee Network, a faith-based organizations’ association, together with the Parliamentary National Prayer Breakfast.

A globally renowned bestselling author, lecturer, teacher, life coach, and leadership mentor, Dr Munroe has traversed the world training leaders in business, government, education, sports, media and religion.

 “This man is a multi-gifted speaker, who serves as a business consultant to governments, Fortune 500 companies, addressing critical issues that affect every aspect of human, professional, leadership and spiritual development,” said Dr James Magara, chairman of the Jubilee network on Wednesday.

According to Magara, Monroe will start off his mission to the country as a guest speaker at the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast to be held at Hotel Africana on October 8 [Independence Eve], where President Yoweri Museveni is expected as the chief guest and Speaker Hon Rebecca Kadaga as the host.

He will then hold a convention for church leaders on the same day, and later proceed for a Business leadership seminar at Kampala Serena on October 9, whose tickets go for Sh150,000 at Watoto Central.

His wife Mrs Ruth Munroe is also expected to address women on October 8 at All Saints Church at midday.

One of the organizers Mr William Ndawula told reporters that the business seminar is targeting Uganda’s working class, especially those in leadership position in business.

“We all know there is a severe challenge about leadership in business in the country especially in terms if running businesses with integrity, morality and focus towards business vision realization, and there is no better person to address all this than Myles,” he said.


Myles is also anticipated to give lectures on business sustainability, being one of Uganda’s largest corporate challenges, as well as working and living a Purposeful life.
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MYLES MUNROE UGANDA TOUR OCTOBER 2013

Dr. Munroe for Kampala Independence Business Forum

Celebrated International televangelist Dr Myles Munroe is set to jet in the country for two grand conventions that will wrap up the national year of jubilee, which ends on October 9, as well as launch the journey to the next Jubilee in 2062.
By
Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles’ first ever two-day visit to Uganda is being enabled by Uganda Jubilee Network, a faith-based organizations’ association, together with the Parliamentary National Prayer Breakfast.

A globally renowned bestselling author, lecturer, teacher, life coach, and leadership mentor, Dr Munroe has traversed the world training leaders in business, government, education, sports, media and religion.

 “This man is a multi-gifted speaker, who serves as a business consultant to governments, Fortune 500 companies, addressing critical issues that affect every aspect of human, professional, leadership and spiritual development,” said Dr James Magara, chairman of the Jubilee network on Wednesday.

According to Magara, Monroe will start off his mission to the country as a guest speaker at the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast to be held at Hotel Africana on October 8 [Independence Eve], where President Yoweri Museveni is expected as the chief guest and Speaker Hon Rebecca Kadaga as the host.

He will then hold a convention for church leaders on the same day, and later proceed for a Business leadership seminar at Kampala Serena on October 9, whose tickets go for Sh150,000 at Watoto Central.

His wife Mrs Ruth Munroe is also expected to address women on October 8 at All Saints Church at midday.

One of the organizers Mr William Ndawula told reporters that the business seminar is targeting Uganda’s working class, especially those in leadership position in business.

“We all know there is a severe challenge about leadership in business in the country especially in terms if running businesses with integrity, morality and focus towards business vision realization, and there is no better person to address all this than Myles,” he said.


Myles is also anticipated to give lectures on business sustainability, being one of Uganda’s largest corporate challenges, as well as working and living a Purposeful life.
- See more at: http://chimpreports.com/index.php/people/12783-dr-munroe-for-kampala-independence-business-forum.html#sthash.4CvrMNwW.dpuf

Dr. Munroe for Kampala Independence Business Forum

Celebrated International televangelist Dr Myles Munroe is set to jet in the country for two grand conventions that will wrap up the national year of jubilee, which ends on October 9, as well as launch the journey to the next Jubilee in 2062.
By
Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles’ first ever two-day visit to Uganda is being enabled by Uganda Jubilee Network, a faith-based organizations’ association, together with the Parliamentary National Prayer Breakfast.

A globally renowned bestselling author, lecturer, teacher, life coach, and leadership mentor, Dr Munroe has traversed the world training leaders in business, government, education, sports, media and religion.

 “This man is a multi-gifted speaker, who serves as a business consultant to governments, Fortune 500 companies, addressing critical issues that affect every aspect of human, professional, leadership and spiritual development,” said Dr James Magara, chairman of the Jubilee network on Wednesday.

According to Magara, Monroe will start off his mission to the country as a guest speaker at the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast to be held at Hotel Africana on October 8 [Independence Eve], where President Yoweri Museveni is expected as the chief guest and Speaker Hon Rebecca Kadaga as the host.

He will then hold a convention for church leaders on the same day, and later proceed for a Business leadership seminar at Kampala Serena on October 9, whose tickets go for Sh150,000 at Watoto Central.

His wife Mrs Ruth Munroe is also expected to address women on October 8 at All Saints Church at midday.

One of the organizers Mr William Ndawula told reporters that the business seminar is targeting Uganda’s working class, especially those in leadership position in business.

“We all know there is a severe challenge about leadership in business in the country especially in terms if running businesses with integrity, morality and focus towards business vision realization, and there is no better person to address all this than Myles,” he said.


Myles is also anticipated to give lectures on business sustainability, being one of Uganda’s largest corporate challenges, as well as working and living a Purposeful life.
- See more at: http://chimpreports.com/index.php/people/12783-dr-munroe-for-kampala-independence-business-forum.html#sthash.4CvrMNwW.dpuf

Dr. Munroe for Kampala Independence Business Forum

Celebrated International televangelist Dr Myles Munroe is set to jet in the country for two grand conventions that will wrap up the national year of jubilee, which ends on October 9, as well as launch the journey to the next Jubilee in 2062.
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My analysis
They are many success gurus in the world today like Myles Monroe. These men and women are excellent speakers with incredible oratory skills. They are telling people to think big, dream big, believe in your self, trust in your self, forgive your self . This is called Humanism or new age religion, or New age spirituality . They demote God from his sovereignty and deify man. According to Myles Monroe’s new age humanism, God needs the permission  from man to operate legally on earth. Can you imagine!!! This new age humanism is a hiss of the serpent. So, the serpent behind the lie of new age- humanism is telling us to believe in our self instead of believing in God.

This humanism has stealthily crept into the ‘born again’ churches especially the Pentecostal churches. Pentecostal pastors like Dr.Shulller, Rick Warren, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Andrew Wommack, Late Kenneth Hagin etc are teaching new age-humanism, which they have given a Christian mask. Dr. Shulller is famous for his so called self esteem new age-humanism theology. The likes of Benny Hinn, Copeland, Frederick Price, have stealthily taught that we should have faith in our faith, instead of having faith in God. The word of God categorically cautions us to put our trust in God in everything we do and never to lean on our own understanding.(Proverbs. 3:5). Scripture categorically states that cursed is he who trusts in man(Jeremiah 17:5).

The God of pastors like Myles Monroe is mammon and not the Lord Jesus Christ. Myles Monroe is a minister of satan . He preaches the gospel for  filthy lucre’s sake .  If Dr. Myles Monroe has a word from God for the Uganda church why speak it out from an expensive hotel which the poor Ugandan can not access. Why charge 50, 000 Ug. Shillings(20$) in a country where  a number people live on less than 2 dollars a day.  
NEW AGE FAITH  IS BEING TAUGHT AS BIBLE FAITH
GOD’S PLAN OF SALVATION HAS BEEN CORRUPTED
http://www.combineharvesting.com/god_s_plan_of_salvation_has_been_corrupted.xml.htm  

Must watch


Benny Hinn False Teaching On Prayer With Myles Munroe



Myles Munroe is a false TEACHER 2x3



Myles Munroe is a false TEACHER 3x3



Myles Munroe is a false TEACHER 1x3  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djnvuci-8X8

Miles Monroe Exposed

Benny hinn and Myles Monroe  

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=thQVoSNnap4



Dr.Myles Munroe's visit to Uganda was associated with the Anglican church of Uganda, the National Council of Born Again Pentecostal Churches, World Trumpet Mission of Pastor John Mulinde , Intercessors for Uganda etc


 Myres Monroe Famous extra biblical quotes



"Let me define prayer for you in this show. Prayer is man giving God permission or license to interfere in earth's affairs. In other words, prayer is earthly license for heavenly interference." (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004)


….God can do nothing on earth, nothing has God ever done on earth without a human giving him access….Always looking for a human to give him power of permission. In other words, God has the power, but you got the permission. God got the authority and the power, but you got the license. So even though God can do anything, he can only do what you permit him to do Myles Munroe, "(This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004)


“That's why angel's need our permission to function. It says they are here to do our bidding. They can't even act without our permission, you see. But, here's the bigger statement: Even God Himself is illegal on earth. Why? Because, He is a spirit and the law He set up by His own mouth was that only spirits with bodies can function on earth legally."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004)



"Why can't God take care of Pharaoh by Himself? Why can't God invade that government and disrupt that process and set them free by Himself? He is illegal. (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004)


“God has done nothing on earth without a human co-operating with Him”. (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004)


"Heaven depends on earth for interference. If He [God] could just find two people like you [Benny Hinn] and I to agree. We agree for God to do this thing. Then God says, 'Thank you very much for permission!' Then He [God] can come." (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004)


"Our prayer is a strange experience. We normally ask God to do things, God is telling us to command Him permission to do it for us." (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004)


“God could do nothing on earth, nothing has God ever done on earth without a human giving Him access." (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004)


“He [God] could not name those animals because He [God] is illegal.” (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004)


"O' Lord, heal this man. God says, 'No! No! No! Talk to the sickness, I am already healing the guy. What I need is permission to get the healing on earth.'" (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004)


"When a human gets healed and becomes well again, God Himself is able to stay here legally longer." (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004)


"Every spirit is trying to find a body. Can I give you another shocker? [Benny Hinn: You bet!] Even the Holy Spirit, because He cannot function here without a body. That's why your called the body of Christ. And it says our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. Cause He Himself needs to be legal to function." (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004)


"God says, 'If my people,' now if means, 'I would like to fix this, but I can't fix this without a human giving me permission.'" (Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004)

"God and His angels need our permission to work on earth". Oh really? What does the Word of God have to say about this rank dominionist stupidity?


“And all the people of the earth are counted as nothing; and He does according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the people of the earth. And none can strike His hand, or say to Him, What are You doing?” Daniel 4:35



For I am Yahweh your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior; I gave Egypt for your ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for you”. Isaiah 43:3 



“But our God is in Heaven; He has done whatever He has pleased”. Psalm 115:3


Every thing Yahweh pleased, He did in the heavens and in earth, and in the seas and all deep places. He causes the vapours to rise from the end of the earth; He makes lightnings for the rain; He brings wind out of His storehouses. He who struck the first-born of Egypt, both of man and animal; who sent signs and wonders into your midst, O Egypt, on Pharaoh and on all his servants; who struck great nations and killed mighty kings, Sihon king of the Amorites, and Og king of Bashan, and all the kingdoms of Canaan, and gave their land as an inheritance, an inheritance to Israel His people. Your name, O Yahweh, endures forever, and Your memorial, O Yahweh, throughout all generations”. Psalm 135: 6-13

Prosperity Gospel Gone Wild: Joel Osteen’s Witchraft – Myles Munroe charging over $100 To Watch Church Services



http://beginningandend.com/prosperity-gospel-wild-joel-osteen-myles-munroe-charging-100-services/

 Pastor Munroe recently charged $199 just to watch a pay-per-view showing of his church conference on the internet! Myles Munroe is a very sophisticated Prosperity Gospel Preacher. Rather than just stirring up the congregation to “sew a seed” of money and await their blessing, he has built an entire false doctrine centered on the Kingdom of God. Munroe’s doctrine (as will be seen in the video below) is the following:


1. God created the Earth for humanity to rule it.
2. Through sin in the Garden of Eden, the ‘ownership of the Kingdom’ on Earth was forfeited.
3. By seeking God and putting faith in God and Biblical living, we can re-enter the Kingdom and reclaim our Royal position.
4. Once we have re-entered the Kingdom, all material blessings are available to us because we now have full dominion over the Earth and everything in it. So whatever we want or need in life, we can will it to happen or be received.
As will be seen in the video below, not only is Munroe preaching unbiblical heresy, he is also preaching from an Antichrist spirit. From the onset, he denies Jesus Christ any glory by saying Jesus was merely a messenger to let us know about the Kingdom of God and the power we have to reclaim the Earth and all of its goods.

Munroe says: “the main reason for Jesus to come to the Earth was not to go to the cross.” The Bible taught otherwise:
And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 25  He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. 26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. 27  Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. 28  Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 29  The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. 30  Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. 31  Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33  This he said, signifying what death he should die.
Hebrews 9:26: “He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.”

Mark 8:31: “And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again”
Munroe then says: “Jesus came not because of the cross primarily but to share the message that we can  “re-enter the Kingdom” (speaking of Earthly Kingdom, royalty and wealth).”

The Bible says the ultimate purpose of God’s love and plan for us is that:  “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:8)
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. – John 3:17.

Jesus came into this world to provide eternal life, not to usher in a Kingdom on Earth for Christians to have “dominion” over today. Jesus died because that was the only way to satisfy the wrath of God against the sins of every human being who has ever lived. Jesus took on the punishment we were supposed to so that we could have a chance to live in Heaven and not go to Hell.
Munroe on the Kingdom

Munroe: “Jesus said ‘It is my Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom’…Jesus sent out His disciples two by two to preach the ‘Kingdom of Heaven has come unto you.’”
Like many false teachers, Munroe has to use Scriptures out of context. Here is the context of the first verse he quotes: “Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.  Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.  For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” (Luke 12:32-34)

The clear point of Jesus’ words here is that the “Kingdom” is spiritual and Heavenly, not one on Earth. The passages states that we should value “treasure in heavens that faileth not” which cannot be corrupted. The focus of Christ’s message, in context, was on eternal life, not the short, present life. And our hearts follow what we treasure. Munroe completely takes this verse out of context to make it say the exact opposite of what Jesus meant.

Regarding Jesus sending out disciples to ‘preach the Kingdom’, Munroe says: “After these things the LORD appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.  And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.” (Luke 10)



So going by Bible Scripture, what does the phrase: “Kingdom of God” mean? It is salvation in Jesus Christ. The belief in Jesus Christ as your Savior, who died for your sins, and was raised three days later in glory, conquering death and the grave is the “Kingdom of God.” For this time being, for those who are on Earth and believe, Jesus reigns in our hearts and fills us with the Holy Spirit. We know this from Jesus’ own words: “And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”  (Luke 17:20-21)

Jesus’ point was that the Kingdom of God at present, arrives when someone puts their faith in Him. And that belief happens in the heart, hence it coming without “observation.” You cannot see the moment someone becomes a believer. It is a decision in the heart. Jesus further confirms this by saying the kingdom of God is “within you.”  The world today in this fallen, sinful age is not Jesus’ Kingdom. He made this clear as well: “Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36)

Jesus set up a Kingdom in the hearts of believers in His first coming. At His Second Coming, He will come to physically establish His Kingdom on Earth. That is when the saints will rule and reign and have “dominion.” Not in this present world. In fact, Jesus identifies who rules this present age and world we live in: ” Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.” (John 12:31)


By his extensive quoting of scripture, Munroe very cleverly changes the gospel message by relegating Jesus and elevating the “Kingdom” which of course, allows us to have control, luxury, wealth and all the good things to satisfy our lusts.  At 5:30 in the video, Munroe goes into complete blasphemy by saying that preaching about “calvary” or “the blood of Jesus”, the baptism of the Holy Spirit or “the Resurrection” was a strategy of Satan! This is an incredibly blasphemous statement.  Once again, the Bible says the exact opposite:  For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 17 17-18)


This verse is explaining that the main purpose of a follower of Christ is to preach the gospel. And the Gospel is about Jesus saving humanity from our sins, not about taking dominion of the Earth today. The Apsotle Paul affirms this by saying that when we try to add our “wisdom of words” to the Gospel message, we make the cross Jesus died on have “none effect.” This is exactly what Munroe is doing. He is trying to preach a new revelation about the Kingdom, that he says most people have not even known about. And his Gospel of the Kingdom has nothing to do with the blood of Christ, which was shed as a payment to have the sins of humanity forgiven. He calls that type of preaching a plan of the devil. This again, is pure blasphemy and falsehood. (And we see more blasphemy and disrespect when Munroe mocks Jesus for calling Himself “the door”).

In the book of John, Jesus again explain what his exact purpose for coming to Earth was:
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:38-40).

The entire mission of Jesus was to give His life and resurrect so He could provide eternal life to those who believe and trust in Him. We never see Jesus telling his followers to take over or command an Earthly Kingdom. As we have demonstrated above, Jesus did not consider the world he lived in His Kingdom. What was most important was that Jesus save the souls of men, not their bodies. He did not come to ensure everyone dominate the finances of the world.

Dr. Munroe for Kampala Independence Business Forum

http://chimpreports.com/index.php/people/12783-dr-munroe-for-kampala-independence-business-forum.html#sthash.4CvrMNwW.dpuf

Celebrated International televangelist Dr Myles Munroe is set to jet in the country for two grand conventions that will wrap up the national year of jubilee, which ends on October 9, as well as launch the journey to the next Jubilee in 2062. 

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Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans



Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans    



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Myles’ first ever two-day visit to Uganda is being enabled by Uganda Jubilee Network, a faith-based organizations’ association, together with the Parliamentary National Prayer Breakfast.

A globally renowned bestselling author, lecturer, teacher, life coach, and leadership mentor, Dr Munroe has traversed the world training leaders in business, government, education, sports, media and religion.

 “This man is a multi-gifted speaker, who serves as a business consultant to governments, Fortune 500 companies, addressing critical issues that affect every aspect of human, professional, leadership and spiritual development,” said Dr James Magara, chairman of the Jubilee network on Wednesday.

According to Magara, Monroe will start off his mission to the country as a guest speaker at the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast to be held at Hotel Africana on October 8 [Independence Eve], where President Yoweri Museveni is expected as the chief guest and Speaker Hon Rebecca Kadaga as the host.

He will then hold a convention for church leaders on the same day, and later proceed for a Business leadership seminar at Kampala Serena on October 9, whose tickets go for Sh150,000 at Watoto Central.
His wife Mrs Ruth Munroe is also expected to address women on October 8 at All Saints Church at midday.

One of the organizers Mr William Ndawula told reporters that the business seminar is targeting Uganda’s working class, especially those in leadership position in business.

“We all know there is a severe challenge about leadership in business in the country especially in terms if running businesses with integrity, morality and focus towards business vision realization, and there is no better person to address all this than Myles,” he said.

Myles is also anticipated to give lectures on business sustainability, being one of Uganda’s largest corporate challenges, as well as working and living a Purposeful life.



Myres Monroe Famous extra biblical quotes



Myles Munroe teaches that God needs our permission to work on earth.

 Myles Munroe Myles Munroe teaches that God needs our permission to work on earth.  He also teaches that angels need our permission as well to do their jobs.For example, he teaches that God sought Abraham for permission to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.  In their make believe interaction according to Myles Munroe, God told Abraham, "You got it!  You're the man!  Once you're satisfied and give me permission I will act."This is absurd to think that an Almighty and Sovereign God needs our permission to act in His universe!  Think about it my friend, is this not the height of arrogance?  What does the bible have to say about the sovereign plan of God and the vain efforts of man that try to subvert it?"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35, see also Isaiah 43:3, Psalm 115:3, 135:6.  Whom will you believe, God or Myles Munroe? Benny Hinn made the following endorsements after these incredibly blasphemous statements by Myles Munroe: "Man!  That is absolutely awesome!  Dear God!...That's incredible!  That's incredible!  Wow!...Wow!  Wow!  Wow!...This is so amazing!...Are you getting blessed like I am, dear Jesus." Myles Munroe: "That's why angel's need our permission to function.  It says they are here to do our biddingThey can't even act without our permission, you see.  But, here's the bigger statement: Even God Himself is illegal on earth.  Why?  Because, He is a spirit and the law He set up by His own mouth was that only spirits with bodies can function on earth legally."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004) "Why can't God take care of Pharaoh by Himself?  Why can't God invade that government and disrupt that process and set them free by Himself?  He is illegal.  So God then has to get the attention of a human first.  Then spend hours, maybe even days trying to convince this one human to work with Him.  Moses came up with every single excuse he could find and gave them.  And Almighty God tolerated him, saying, 'Look, if you can't talk, I will speak for you.  If you got problems, I'll solve them for you.  If you're afraid, I'll give you courage.  In other words, whatever you need, please work with meCause I want to do something.  Give me your body.'"(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "So, even though God can do anything, He can only do what you permit Him to do.  If you study the Word of God, you will see why it makes so much sense.  For example, God has done nothing on earth without a human co-operating with Him.  He had to find a human.  When God for example wanted to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah...Go ahead and destroy it!  No!  He [God] was illegal.  He had to find a human to give Him access and ageement to release His powerSo, then God had to negotiate with a man in Abraham.  They argued for a long time!...Abraham figured it out.  Abraham said, 'Ahh, Haa!  Okay, so I'll tell you what!  Before I give you permission [Abraham gives God permission!] to touch that city, if I could find 50 men, 40, 30, 10.'  He said, 'I'm dealing, and God had to deal with a man.'  And he said, 'If I could only find one.' God says, 'You got it!  You're the man!  Once you're satisfied and give me permission I will act."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004) "When you study Moses or any human that has been successful with God, you will find this dependency God has on humanity. God says, 'Moses, quickly agree with me.  Because your brother, your nephew is on the way.  We got to get this work doneI need a human to agree.'  As soon as Moses agrees with God, God says, 'Okay, let's Go.'"(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "Let me define prayer for you in this show. Prayer is man giving God permission or license to interfere in earth's affairsIn other words, prayer is earthly license for heavenly interference."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004) "Heaven depends on earth for interference.  If He [God] could just find two people like you [Benny Hinn] and I to agree.  We agree for God to do this thing.  Then God says, 'Thank you very much for permission!'  Then He [God] can come."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "Our prayer is a strange experience.  We normally ask God to do things, God is telling us to command Him permission to do it for us."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "God could do nothing on earth, nothing has God ever done on earth without a human giving Him access."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004) "He [God] could not name those animals because He [God] is illegal."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "O' Lord, heal this man.  God says, 'No! No! No!  Talk to the sickness, I am already healing the guy.  What I need is permission to get the healing on earth.'"(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) Myles Munroe:  "Jesus was necessary for Christ."Benny Hinn:  "Wait!  Wait!  Wait!  Wait!  Pastor, slow down.  What you mean is."Myles Munroe: "Jesus made Christ legal on the earth.  Jesus was the body."Benny Hinn:  "Has he always been this deep here?  It's amazing what he's saying.  So, So, repeat that."Myles Munroe:  "Christ is God's Spirit, that's why Christ needed a body to come to earth legally."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "Every sick person is already healed.  That's why you don't really have to lay hands on a million of people in India to heal them.  You don't have to, they are already healed.  What God's problem is, is getting the healing to earth."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "When a human gets healed and becomes well again, God Himself is able to stay here legally longer."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "Every spirit is trying to find a body.  Can I give you another shocker?  [Benny Hinn: You bet!]  Even the Holy Spirit, because He cannot function here without a body.  That's why your called the body of Christ.  And it says our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit.  Cause He Himself needs to be legal to function."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "In other words, Moses had to initiate the action for God to produce the product."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "God says, 'If my people,' now if means, 'I would like to fix this, but I can't fix this without a human giving me permission.'"(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "Interfering in earth by God is totally up to us...Heaven is waiting on earth to get things done."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 13, 2004) "What is faith?  Faith is believing in what you said, that God told you.  In other words, the fight is to keep believing after you said something."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004) "That's why your [Benny Hinn] healing ministry is necessary.  God could heal people by Himself as a spirit with powerBut it's illegal to do it on earth.  So, He needs a human agency.  What does laying your hands on a human to do with healing?  Well, really nothing.  We touch you you all the time but your sick.  What He's looking for is permissionThe power to heal is always present, but having permission to heal is held up by humanity and their lack of faith."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004) "God made a promise to Satan, I paraphrase again, I believe God said it this way in my spirit.  He said, 'Satan, you know I can't come in right now because I'm a spiritAnd if I came in now as a spirit I would violate my Word, break my Word, and I would never be able to be trusted again with my Word.  But, I'll make a promise, and the promise is: the same woman that you used to destroy my program on earth for humanity.  I'm going to use the same woman and I'm going to put my seed in her womb and she'll build around me a physical dirt body.  And I will become legal in the earth.  And then legal, I will then come in legally and crush your authority legally."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004) "Satan himself knew that in order for him to fuction on this earth that he needed a body alsoThat's why he had to go to the serpent which had a dirt body and negotiated with the serpent to borrow his body for awhile.  And he did, and that's why God cursed the serpent cause the serpent literally loaned his body to the Adversary, who's a spirit, in order to do buisness legally with Eve."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004) "It bothered me, I'm sure it bothered you [Benny Hinn] for years as a pastor.  If God is so mighty, powerful, awesome, omnipotent, omniscient, why couldn't this mighty God who made 500 million planets and galaxies couldn't stop a skinny little woman from picking the fruit and destroying His whole program?  I mean, God aren't you powerful?  You could intervene, you can destroy the works of the devil, prevent the woman and save humanity.  But He couldn't!  Not that He didn't, He couldn't!..."(Myles Munroe, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn, July 12, 2004)




The Watchwoman: Myles Munroe's Dangerous Doctrine For Women



  By NOELLE NICOLLS
#A sermon delivered by Dr Myles Munroe, president and founder of the Bahamas Faith Ministries International (BFMI), has been making its way around the social sphere generating a lot of debate. I watched the video because it was shared by a close friend, even though the online group “Meeting In The Ladies Room” posted it with a message stating: “All Ladies Regardless Of Marital Status Should Watch This!”

#After watching the sermon the first, second, third and fourth time, with an open mind, I still could not bring myself to understand, why and how so many women were giving it rave reviews. One woman declared the message to be “profound and powerful!!”. Another woman said: “Amazing word. I can’t wait to show this to my sons.” And yet another called for the message to be played on a “bull horn”. She said it was so “absolutely wonderful” the mighty word had to get out.

#I was completely perplexed by these responses, because the same sermon that brought these women to a spiritual orgasm made me want to go out gunning to slay the wolf. I was not completely alone, although certainly in the minority, for there were a handful of dissenting voices amongst the faithful flock who thought the message was outright offensive.

#Dr Munroe’s sermon speaks to the story of Adam and Eve, the first marriage in history, according to the Christian creation story, and shares lessons on the role of men and women in relationships.

#In the words of Dr Munroe: “The third thing God told the man - Genesis 2:15 - is cultivate. Cultivate means to bring out the best in everything around you, to maximise the potential of everything around you, to make everything fruitful. He only said that to the male. That is why God will never give a man a finished woman.

#“The male was created by God to create what he wants. The woman you are looking for, brother, does not exist. She is in your head. Your job is to take the raw material you married and cultivate her into the woman in your head. So if you have been married for 20 years and you still don’t like the product you get, that is your fault,” said Dr Munroe.

#When are we going to move away from following doctrines that make women objects in a man’s world. Not only is Dr Munroe explicit in referring to a wife as a product of her husband, he says men are entitled by divine decree to create the women they want.

#Such is the conditioning that occurs in abusive relationships, where men tell their women what clothes to wear, how to style their hair, the friends they can maintain and the places they can go. These are the conditions that foster relationships of power and control, the foundation of all abuse. And while the message is gendered in Dr Munroe’s context, it has broader meaning in the context of healthy relationships, because the same doctrine applied in reverse creates the same conditions for abuse.

#Speaking about Jesus’ relationship to his wife, Dr Munroe said: “Jesus Christ is a real man, a real man. He has a wife, a beautiful woman. Her name was Ecclesia. He said about his wife, he said husband love your wife like I love my wife. He tells us how to do it. He says you wash her with the word, and then you remove every spot, every wrinkle, every blemish and then present her to yourself. That is mine, I did that. I produced that. Look at her. Look at her. That’s my baby.”

#Our leaders need to start using language to affirm the value of men and women and their equal standing in the eyes of God; to affirm the individuality of every man and woman. Our leaders need to consider the way in which their language socialises impressionable young girls and boys, who are trying to negotiate gender relationships in their youth. His message is dangerous not only because it objectifies women, but also because it lays the foundation for the subjugation of women.

#Patriarchal religious doctrines have been used for centuries as reason to deprive women of their individual freedoms, and we must never forget. Male interpretations of religious texts have been used to justify some of the most persistent and pervasive human rights abuses. And while organised religion has evolved since its brutish origins, the church has not shed all of its misguided ways.

#It is in the language used by church leaders like Dr Munroe that we see those lingering remnants of the patriarchal order, in which robbed men “twisted and distorted holy scriptures to perpetuate their ascendant positions within the religious hierarchy”. It is this language that often provides the foundation and justification for the abuse of women throughout the world.

#Human rights activist Jimmy Carter, the former US president, recently spoke to this very issue when he stated emphatically, along with elders from many faiths: “The justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a higher authority, is unacceptable.

#“At their most repugnant, the belief that women must be subjugated to the wishes of men excuses slavery, violence, forced prostitution, genital mutilation and national laws that omit rape as a crime. But it also costs many millions of girls and women control over their own bodies and lives, and continues to deny them fair access to education, health, employment and influence within their own communities.”

#In Dr Munroe’s sermon, he speaks about God placing man in his presence. He was not referring to man in the sense of the human race, but rather men, represented in Adam. Eden, as in the Garden of Eden, he said represents an environment, a place of divine presence, an open door to God, where Adam was placed.

#Dr Munroe further described the spiritual hierarchy that exists between man, woman and God. Referencing scripture, he said God also gave the man his word. When God commanded Adam not to “touch the tree (of knowledge)”, God never spoke to Eve. The significance, Dr Munroe suggested, is that the male is the only one to have been blessed by God with the word (a direct relationship to God). A wife, though she too is created in the image and likeness of God, has to wait to be taught by her husband, for only he stands in God’s presence and was blessed by the word.

#In response to a lonely dissenter on the video feed, one faithful follower wrote: “If you find this appalling or offensive don’t read the Bible.” Part of me believes there is wisdom in her response. Another part of me wants to believe there is hope for women of the Christian faith who reject male interpretations of holy scriptures that establish gender hierarchies and justify the superiority of men.

#I will certainly question any doctrine that creates a foundation and justification for the abuse of women throughout the world, no matter how divinely ordained the messenger claims to be.

#Noelle Nicolls is the Tribune Features Editor. Her Watchwoman column explores genders issues in politics and culture from a feminist perspective.




We are pleased to inform you that this October, Uganda Jubilee Network in partnership with National Prayer Breakfast Uganda, will be hosting Dr. Myles Munroe from Tuesday, 8th October to Wednesday, 9th October 2013.

The purpose of this message is to inform you officially about the visit and to invite you to participate with other members of the Body of Christ as we exit the Jubilee season and embark on the journey of the next 50 years.

Among the meetings we expect Dr. Munroe to address are:

8th October 2013
Convention
Theme:
What is God Saying to the Church Today?
Imperial Royale Hotel, 5pm
Fee: 50,000 UGX
9th October 2013
Business Forum
Theme:
Business Leadership in the 21st Century
Serena Hotel, 8:30 am
Fee: 150,000 UGX
For bookings call: 0783 836202 or 0772 455880
Email: ugandajubilee@gmail.com
Facebook: myles munroe Uganda tour
Tickets are sold at:
  • LaFontaine Bookshop
  • Aristoc Booklex
  • Fresh Vine Bookshop
  • Café Pap
  • Jubilee Dental Clini


Dr. Munroe for Kampala Independence Business Forum

Celebrated International televangelist Dr Myles Munroe is set to jet in the country for two grand conventions that will wrap up the national year of jubilee, which ends on October 9, as well as launch the journey to the next Jubilee in 2062.
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Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles’ first ever two-day visit to Uganda is being enabled by Uganda Jubilee Network, a faith-based organizations’ association, together with the Parliamentary National Prayer Breakfast.

A globally renowned bestselling author, lecturer, teacher, life coach, and leadership mentor, Dr Munroe has traversed the world training leaders in business, government, education, sports, media and religion.

 “This man is a multi-gifted speaker, who serves as a business consultant to governments, Fortune 500 companies, addressing critical issues that affect every aspect of human, professional, leadership and spiritual development,” said Dr James Magara, chairman of the Jubilee network on Wednesday.

According to Magara, Monroe will start off his mission to the country as a guest speaker at the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast to be held at Hotel Africana on October 8 [Independence Eve], where President Yoweri Museveni is expected as the chief guest and Speaker Hon Rebecca Kadaga as the host.

He will then hold a convention for church leaders on the same day, and later proceed for a Business leadership seminar at Kampala Serena on October 9, whose tickets go for Sh150,000 at Watoto Central.

His wife Mrs Ruth Munroe is also expected to address women on October 8 at All Saints Church at midday.

One of the organizers Mr William Ndawula told reporters that the business seminar is targeting Uganda’s working class, especially those in leadership position in business.

“We all know there is a severe challenge about leadership in business in the country especially in terms if running businesses with integrity, morality and focus towards business vision realization, and there is no better person to address all this than Myles,” he said.


Myles is also anticipated to give lectures on business sustainability, being one of Uganda’s largest corporate challenges, as well as working and living a Purposeful life.
- See more at: http://chimpreports.com/index.php/people/12783-dr-munroe-for-kampala-independence-business-forum.html#sthash.4CvrMNwW.dpuf

Dr. Munroe for Kampala Independence Business Forum

Celebrated International televangelist Dr Myles Munroe is set to jet in the country for two grand conventions that will wrap up the national year of jubilee, which ends on October 9, as well as launch the journey to the next Jubilee in 2062.
By
Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles and his wife Ruth are carrying a jubilee message for Ugandans
Myles’ first ever two-day visit to Uganda is being enabled by Uganda Jubilee Network, a faith-based organizations’ association, together with the Parliamentary National Prayer Breakfast.

A globally renowned bestselling author, lecturer, teacher, life coach, and leadership mentor, Dr Munroe has traversed the world training leaders in business, government, education, sports, media and religion.

 “This man is a multi-gifted speaker, who serves as a business consultant to governments, Fortune 500 companies, addressing critical issues that affect every aspect of human, professional, leadership and spiritual development,” said Dr James Magara, chairman of the Jubilee network on Wednesday.

According to Magara, Monroe will start off his mission to the country as a guest speaker at the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast to be held at Hotel Africana on October 8 [Independence Eve], where President Yoweri Museveni is expected as the chief guest and Speaker Hon Rebecca Kadaga as the host.

He will then hold a convention for church leaders on the same day, and later proceed for a Business leadership seminar at Kampala Serena on October 9, whose tickets go for Sh150,000 at Watoto Central.

His wife Mrs Ruth Munroe is also expected to address women on October 8 at All Saints Church at midday.

One of the organizers Mr William Ndawula told reporters that the business seminar is targeting Uganda’s working class, especially those in leadership position in business.

“We all know there is a severe challenge about leadership in business in the country especially in terms if running businesses with integrity, morality and focus towards business vision realization, and there is no better person to address all this than Myles,” he said.


Myles is also anticipated to give lectures on business sustainability, being one of Uganda’s largest corporate challenges, as well as working and living a Purposeful life.
- See more at: http://chimpreports.com/index.php/people/12783-dr-munroe-for-kampala-independence-business-forum.html#sthash.4CvrMNwW.dpuf

King Of The Pimp Preachers In Nigeria Poor Christians Here Have Bishop T.D. Jakes - Poor Christians In Nigeria Have Bishop David Oyedepo

 


PimpPreacher.com New Orleans Bureau 09/21/2013

The first 19 slaves arrived in Jamestown Virginia in 1619 by Dutch Traders who stole them from Spanish Traders, so the slaves were stolen twice by Christians. Fast forward the clock almost 400 years and we still find African citizens in their native country plagued by larcenist, but this time the Slave Traders are Pastors.

The same Prosperity Gospel that has sucked millions of hard earned dollars out of the pockets of Believers in this country, has hit countries like Nigeria and Kenya with epidemic proportions. In the same manner as the indigenous American Indians immune systems were not equip to handle the diseases that came along with the Spaniards, neither can the Kenyan monetary immune system handle this “Sow a Seed” gospel that is now infecting their congregations. 


Our pastors have taught the African pastors just how to do it. The “it” I am referring to is how to take a group of poor people and convince them that the way to please God is to give the preacher some money. We have witness “it” play out in churches all across this country and in the Caribbean, and the only person who  has ever profited in any of these settings has always been the so-called Prophets/Pastors. 


The roads to riches now go through the pulpit in Nigeria literally, because some of the richest men in the country are Pastors. Nigeria is a country in which 2/3 of the population exist well below what we would consider poverty in the United States. Having said that, a few these pastors have managed to accumulate the type of “Christ Cash” that would make even Bishop Eddie Long look like an Amor Bearer. 


Listed below you will find three of the wealthiest pastors in Nigeria – you make also want to take this opportunity to clean your eye glasses.

 
Bishop David Oyedepo

Bishop David Oyedepo is a Nigerian Preacher, Christian Author, Founder and Presiding Bishop of Winners Chapel known as Living Faith Church World Wide. He is hailed as the wealthiest preacher in Nigeria with a total net worth of $150 million and properties like 4 private jets and homes in the United States and England. After the foundation of the Living Faith Outreach Ministry in 1981, it has evolved to be one of the largest congregations in Africa.


Net worth: $150 million
Ministry/Church: Living Faith World Outreach Ministry, also known as Winners Chapel


Every Sunday, he is hosting three worship services in Faith Tabernacle which has a total capacity of 50,000 people. He is also the founder and owner of the Faith Academy, a high school for the elites, Dominion Publishing House which publishes his books and Covenant University, a top tertiary school in Nigeria.


 

Chris Oyakhilome

Net worth: $30 million – $50 million
Church: Believers’ Loveworld Ministries, a.k.a Christ Embassy


With an estimated net worth between $30 million- $50 million, Chris Oyakhilome is one of the richest pastors in the whole of Nigeria. He is a faith healer, a televangelist and founding president of the Christ Embassy which is also known as the Believers’ LoveWorld Inc. 


He is actively involved in magazines, newspapers, local television station, satellite TV, record label and even real estate. 


He had been involved in a $35 million laundering case after he was accused of stealing his church funds and transferring it to foreign banks. He denied the accusation which dismissed the case eventually. Currently, Christ Embassy has over 40,000 members, some of which were successful politicians and business executives.


 
Bishop Temitope Joshua

Net worth: $10 million – $15 million
Church: Synagogue Church Of All Nations (SCOAN)


With an estimated net worth of $10 million-$15 million, this Nigerian televangelist, humanitarian, minister and faith healer belongs to the top 5 richest pastors in Nigeria.


He is the founder of the Synagogue Church of All Nations, he is considered as the most philanthropic and controversial churchman.


Through the years, the church has expanded to Greece, South Africa, Ghana and United Kingdom with over 15,000 worshipers on regular Sunday service. He owns a Christian television network named Emmanuel TV, and for over 3 years, he has given up a total of about $20 million to help a number of causes including healthcare, education and rehabilitation programs for the militants of Niger Delta.



A complaint file with PimpPreacher.com against Bishop Temitope Joshus

"Although this man is operating in West Africa, he is using youtube to gather a following worldwide, and is making inroads into the American church. He has gathered "recommendations" from big names (including CeCe Winans) which he broadcasts on his television channel (Emmanuel TV). He calls them "interviews" but in reality it is pretty obvious that he sent his minions to a conference and had them shove a mic into people's faces, asking them to read a script "This is So-and-so Big Name, keep watching Emmanuel TV."

Even my own pastor at one point visited the SCOAN several decades ago, and was handed a mic so that he could say something nice about the church, and that decades old video is currently on youtube presented as a recent recommendation by a "well known American pastor." (he's not that well known, lol).


There is no question in my mind that SCOAN is a cult. Interacting with this man's followers makes that clear. They have no Biblical defense for the heresy and blasphemy he promotes. They are limited to 3 or 4 responses to questions. 1: "The Bible says Do not judge! Leave the man of God alone" 2: "You are a demon! Or at least demon posessed!" 3: "How many demons have YOU cast out? Do better than him and then we will follow you!" 4: "You clearly don't know God, if you question a man who has such great power!"


Major problems with TB Joshua

  • He has gathered his vast riches from the hands of desperate people entrenched in poverty.

  • He broadcasts flagrant heresy via Emmanuel TV. He allows people to testify that he is "THE son of Jesus", "seated at the right hand of God with Jesus", etc. He allows people to kneel before him.

  • He promotes his special "annointing water" and labels it as "The blood of Jesus", and says it is for healing and the salvation of the soul. Four people in Ghana DIED in a stampede to get some of this water.

Actually, everything is a major problem with him, but i can't write a book. His actual sermons are usually inoffensive but incredibly repetetive and shallow. It's in the "deliverance" services that the real crazy comes out."



First Read:

Is Nigerian Bishop David Oyedepo Bullying Ugandan Pastors?




The story of Nigeria's most enigmatic Prosperity pastors



Wealthy Nigerians, Pastors Spend $225 million on Private Jets


http://watchmanafrica.blogspot.com/2011/05/wealthy-nigerians-pastors-spend-225.html



Nigeria's three richest churches
 


They pastor huge congregations and wield enormous influence in political and economic circles. In effect, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Bishop David Oyedepo and Pastor Enoch Adeboye are men of means as much as they are men of God.
He looks like a matinee idol, dresses like a CEO and speaks with the diction of an airport announcer. And in the estimation of his numerous followers, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome preaches with power and is capable of providing deliverance from all human afflictions.

Since hitting the limelight in the 1990s, the tele-genic Oyakhilome, founder of Christ Embassy, a Pentecostal ministry headquartered in Lagos, has become the face of celebrity Christianity in Nigeria. Simply put, Oyakhilome is glamour and gospel rolled into one. He moves around Lagos in a long convoy of posh automobiles, sirens blaring and shielded by a slew of security men. He also has an intriguing persona. On his birthday, his followers place congratulatory adverts in major newspapers, but none of these has ever revealed his age.

If there are doubts about Oyakhilome's age, there are none about his crowd-pulling power. Among Nigerian Pentecostal pastors, only very few draw bigger crowds than the Edo State-born preacher. His weekly services are said to draw an average of 30,000 faithful, more than some European soccer teams draw for their games. Many of his followers travel from far places, some of which already have satellite arms of the church, just to be in his presence. Oyakhilome's open air crusades attract monstrous attendances.
Oyedepo, affectionately called Papa, is an exponent of prosperity preaching. According to him, it was while on a trip to Tulsa in the United States, during the 1980s, that God said: "Make my people rich.
At every crusade, seats are booked in advance. The last of these took place at his newly acquired Miracles Ground said to be about 3,000 hectares on the Lagos/lbadan expressway tagged Good Friday Miracle Night, the programme attracted an estimated 500,000 faithful.

With the turnout, vehicular movement became chaotic, sentencing road users to a wait of between eight and 10 hours. Also because of the traffic gridlock, some Christ Embassy members spent the night trapped on the road.

But Oyakhilome did not have to endure the hardship. He was the star of the show and got a star treatment by being flown to the event in a helicopter. While other road users seethed and cursed, Oyakhilome's followers were in rapture. To them, the pastor's blessings were more than enough compensation for the hardship. Some even suggested that non-followers had been richly blessed-for spending almost half a day on a 30-minute journey!

But such is the spell-binding effect of the man fondly called Pastor Chris, an object of adulation rather than admiration. His name is mentioned with deference, a gesture extended to Anita, his mulatto wife and director of the church's international operations. She also pastors the satellite arms in the United Kingdom. Oyakhilome's appearance on the pulpit for crusades sparks hysteria, characterised by howling, shrieking and frenzied waving of arms. Though frequently hit by scandal and perennial public doubt of his claims to healing powers, Oyakhilome remains infallible to his followers, who explain the criticisms and scandals as persecution.


 This is hardly surprising, given that they are drip-fed on his teachings. One important teaching of Oyakhilome and of other Pentecostal preachers is "sowing the seed." This requires followers to give part of their earnings to the church in offerings and tithes.

The expected dividends on these are divine blessings. With a church full of young company executives and businessmen, every programme guarantees enormous revenue. Those without money, said a source, are enjoined to turn in their jewelry, wrist­ watches and other personal items as offering or tithes. As the source told this medium, followers fall over one another to do that, expecting God to turn on his tap of blessings. Others give cars, generators, musical equipment and chairs to the church.

In March 2002, Lawrence Agada, an assistant pastor who was a cashier with the Lagos Sheraton Hotels and Towers, donated cash and gifts totaling N39 million to the church. Agada's donations were in installments. He bought a 2S0KVA generator valued at N4.4 million, and another 27KVA generator for NI.5 million, which he donated to a satellite branch of the church.

Before then, he had given N6 million for the refurbishment of the branch, as well as N1 million for the purchase of plastic seats for the headquarters. Agada also contributed N1million to the success of a mega­ crusade tagged Night of Bliss. His parish pastor, who had no money for a trip to Australia, was given N400, 000. In appreciation, Oyakhilome wrote Agada: "May God, who gives seed to the sower and bread for eating, multiply your seeds in Jesus name."

Rather than receive God's blessings, Agada became a guest of the police when his employers discovered that he had stolen from them to give to the church. Agada's employers also insisted that Oyakhilome should refund the money. But the church issued a statement admitting that Agada made donations, but refused to make a refund.
A year later, Gbenga Kehinde, another member, donated to the church in similar circumstances. Then an assistant manager with Eko International Bank, Kehinde stole about N40 million from his employers and donated N 10 million to the church. That also became a messy affair.
But Oyakhilome has income streams other than offerings, tithes and donations. Though trained as an Architect, he appears to have a sharp business sense which has enabled him to exploit his marketability. Like David Beckham, England 's soccer star, Oyakhilome's name and face sell huge quantities of merchandise, which make him such a rich preacher of the gospel.

These include books, video tapes of his crusades and miracles, audio tapes, CDs, VCDs and DVDs of his teachings, which are sold at the various parishes and through agents. They can also be bought online, via the digital media store on the church's websites.
One of the church's websites advertises audio and visual materials on various aspects of the Christian faith. In Nigeria, a video tape costs between N300 and N1,300. CDs are bought for between N300 and
N1,300, while DVDs attract between N600 and N3,600. There are also various books which cost between N200 and N450. All are written by Oyakhilome and Anita, his wife.

The most successful of these is Rhapsody of Realties, a bi­monthly devotional guide. The book, which is published in 25 languages and also has a children's version, is considered a companion to the Bible. For Oyakhilome's followers around the world, it is an important emblem of faith. In Nigeria, it costs N350. Abroad, it is $5, while a one-year subscription attracts $43.20. For on-line purchases, video tapes, CDs, VCDs and DVDs cost between $18 and $20.
The colourful preacher's interest in television hardly came as a surprise. Until 2004, when the National Broadcasting Commission (NBC) barred thy airing of unverifiable faith healings on television, Oyakhilome was the biggest patron of Nigerian television stations. His Atmosphere for Miracles (ATM), ran seven days a week, on about 20 TV stations.
Oyakhilome's messages are also received on pocket personal computers, mobile phones and palmtops. While the steady streams of income have kept him in affluence, they have also provided the muscle for other businesses and more importantly thy expansion of his church.
About two months ago, Oyakhilome bought over the ailing Minaj Television from Senator Mike Ajeigbo. Though details of the deal' are undisclosed, the station's staff, who have been unpaid for 18 months, are hoping that Oyakhilome will work his famed miracles on their lives.

The colourful preacher's interest in television hardly came as a surprise. Until 2004, when the National Broadcasting Commission (NBC) barred thy airing of unverifiable faith healings on television, Oyakhilome was the biggest patron of Nigerian television stations. His Atmosphere for Miracles (ATM), ran seven days a week, on about 20 TV stations.

Even with the NBC ban, Oyakhilome still retains his slots, replacing the ATM with Teaching Programme and LoveWorld: The ATM continues to run, twice a week, on Ghana 's Metro TV and throughout the week on LoveWorld Christian Network, 'ii, satellite channel owned by Oyakhilome. It also runs on TBN in South Africa.

This, naturally, costs huge sums of money. But Oyakhilome's business interests transcend television. These new business, dreams, which when realised, will establish him as a genuine tycoon. Lined up are an airline, named Skypower, and Dickson's., a fast food chain conceived to rival the behemoth Mr. Bigg's, owned by United African Company (UAC). For the airline, the pastor is said to have begun acquiring planes for its operations,. He is also said to have interest in music, with his debut CD dud for release soon. The initiative to go into music, all things being equal, should yield even more income for the handsome preacher.
Oyakhilome may dominate the airwaves, but he does not own the biggest church facility. That honour, allegedly, belongs to Bishop David Oyedepo, founder of Living Faith Ministries a.k.a. Winners' Chapel. Situated in Ota, Ogun State , the six­sided church-named Shiloh or Faith Tabernacle has a capacity of 50,000 worshippers and features a 5,000-strong choir. In Lagos, members are given free bus rides to the church.
The church auditorium, which took just one year to build, is touted as the world's biggest church building. During construction, carried out by architects and engineers who are members of the church and who worked for free, a trailer was said to have made a smooth U-turn inside the hall without having to engage the reverse gear.
Oyedepo's followers believe that his teachings inspire them to see themselves as winners. The Bishop can be rightly described as the winner of winners.
Famous as the Faith Tabernacle is, it is just one structure on a vast tract of land known as Canaanland. Also situated in Canaanland is the Covenant University, of which Oyedepo is chancellor; a secondary and a primary school.
The primary school named Kingdom Heritage, charges N10,000 as tuition fee per term for its kindergarten class and N7, 000 for its upper classes. It has branches in 12 other Nigerian cities. The secondary school, named Faith Academy, charges N 150,000 per session. The university charges different fees in its three different colleges. Students at the College of Human Development pay N228, 000 per year; those at the College of Business and Social Sciences pay N238, 000, while their counterparts at the College of Science and Technology pay N250, 000.
Lecturers housed by the university also pay rents deductible from source. Assistant lecturers pay N100, 000 annually on two-bedroom flats, while senior lecturers pay N240, 000 for three-bedroom flats. Aside from the funds realisable from these sources, it is the duty of members in all branches of the church to con­tribute towards the development of the university.
Members of the church call themselves Winners, an allusion to their perceived victory over poverty, demons and disease. Oyedepo, affectionately called Papa, is an exponent of prosperity preaching. According to him, it was while on a trip to Tulsa in the United States, during the 1980s, that God said: "Make my people rich."
Oyedepo's followers believe that his teachings inspire them to see themselves as winners. The Bishop can be rightly described as the winner of winners. Every Sunday, his followers congregate at the Faith 'Tabernacle for weekly services.

As they stream into the vast auditorium, they are handed envelopes for offerings, tithes and other donations. They also get pieces of paper on which they are expected to write what they request from God. The routine is also repeated during Shiloh, a week-long annual camp meeting which draws members from Nigeria and abroad. Oyedepo has missionaries working in about 30 African countries.
His foreign outposts also send revenue to the headquarters, for which he has unfettered access. Two years ago, the leader of the church In Ghana, Bishop George Adjeman, was dismissed for his decision to stop the remittance of money to the headquarters.
A report in the Ghanaian Chronicle put the monthly revenue from parishes in Ghana at $60,000. Adjeman was replaced by Dzidefo Mensah, who once served as 'Missionary Number One' at the Winners' Chapel in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Yet, there are many other sources of money. One of these is publishing. According to Oyedepo, God gave him a publishing mandate in 1983 and told him: "Your books are supernatural arrows for the liberation of mankind, send them forth! My presence shall go with them and they shall subdue and devour the works of the wicked multitudes will be saved, baptised in the Holy Ghost, healed and delivered from all oppressions of the devil. Emphasise the books and your publications that is my task for you."
This task has been well accomplished. As part of his empire, Oyedepo established Dominion Publishing House and has written about 70 books covering various aspects of the Christian faith and teaching followers how to be successful in business. The books are bestsellers in their own right and have been translated into French. On the church's website, the prices range between four and eight pounds each.
His wife, Faith, is also an author with a number of books on marriage to her credit. In 1998, Oyedepo established the Gilead Medical Centre at his headquarters in Lagos . Two years later, he opened its branch in Kaduna, where his ministry began. According to the church, the medical facility relies on both divine intervention and medical expertise. With the firm belief in God as the healer, a number of otherwise incurable diseases have been miraculously cured."
However, the church claims that the clinic provides treatment at heavily subsidised rates. Oyedepo's church also sells gift items online. Its website bears information on the use of these and how to buy. "Our gift certificates are the perfect gift solution put an end to those tricky moments when you just can't seem to find the right gift, or you need a gift in a hurry.
Send as many as you want to let friends, family or customers and colleagues select the present they really want. We have something for everyone," says the website.
With its long product chain, Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel is something close to a corporation. And like a socially responsible corporation, it has made its presence felt in Nigeria and outside. In 1997, it provided food, clothing and other relief materials to indigenes of Koma Hills in Northern Nigeria , where natives had remained un­touched by the winds of civilisation. In 1996, it gave relief materials to victims of the Liberian civil war.
The Bishop himself lives like a mogul He owns a garage of state-of-the-art cars, had a private jet and has a list of powerful friends that includes President Olusegun Obasanjo, who frequently attends the church, former Senate President, Anyim Pius Anyim, disgraced police boss, Tafa Adebayo Balogun and many captains of industry.
Oyedepo, however, is not the only preacher with friends in high places. Perhaps more than him is Reverend (Dr.) Enoch Adejare Adeboye, a former university teacher and General Overseer (G.O.) of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG).
Adeboye's style is more laid-back. He dresses simply, speaks softly, but arrests almost effortlessly the attention of the rich and the poor. Under Adeboye, fondly called Daddy G.O., the RCCG, which was founded in 1952 by the late Josiah Olufemi Akindayomi, has grown exponentially.
In 1981, when Adeboye took over, the ministry had a few dozen parishes. It is currently Nigeria's most ambitious evangelical project, establishing, according to the church, three parishes daily.
In 1981, when Adeboye took over, the ministry had a few dozen parishes. It is currently Nigeria's most ambitious evangelical project, establishing, according to the church, three parishes daily. It has an estimated 200 parishes in the USA. It also has in about 90 nations across Africa and Europe . It is easily the fastest growing church in the world. Every parish established within one year sends 10 per cent of its tithes and offerings to the headquarters.

Those that have existed for between one and two years remit 15 per cent of such, while older ones remit 20 per cent. Last July, the church announced its plans to build a 10,000-capacity sanctuary in Floyd, Texas, USA. The is to be built on 500 acres of land bought at a cost of $1million. The land will also have two lecture theatres, a dormitory, cottages, lake and a Christian the med park.

Back home, the church's might is unmissable. There is a parish within every five-minute drive, or in some cases less than that radius. But the church's most famous landmark is the Redemption Camp, a monstrously vast acreage located on the Lagos/Ibadan expressway.

It hosts the monthly camp meeting called Holy Ghost Night which, according to the church, attracts crowds of between 800,000 and 1.2 million. Held on the first Friday of every month, the night long programme offers worshippers an avenue to ask God for their desires; and the church, an opportunity to boost its finances. About 20,000 ushers with polythene bags move round the huge crowd, taking offerings and other monetary pledges.

The camp also hosts the Holy Ghost congress, the church's biggest event of the year. The congress, which holds every December, is a three-day affair which draws RCCG members from Nigeria and outside, as well as from other denominations. In 1998, it assumed a bigger dimension, with the successful hosting of Lekki '98 at Lekki Beach , Lagos .

The mega-event required mega-preparations which RCCG did not fail to pro­vide. The church provided more than 200,000 benches, large screens for those seated far from the pulpit; numerous masts, each bearing 12,000 watts of bulbs. The church spent the sum of N36.7million on lighting and providing generating sets at the venue of the event.

It also provided toilets and two clinics for the infirm and pregnant women. It was massively supported by Nigerian Breweries plc among other donors. The church sold mementoes of the event, earning good money as a result.
The Redemption camp is a town on its own. It has banks, residential quarters for staff and members wealthy enough to buy.
Since then, the event has grown bigger every year. It has also attracted the cream of the Nigerian society, as the President, governors, ministers, senators, traditional rulers like the Ooni of Ife, Oba Okunade Sijuwade, business moguls and other prominent Nigerians, some of who, like Governor Bola Ahmed Tinubu of Lagos State, do not even belong to the Christian faith. This demonstrates Adeboye's massive influence.

The Redemption camp is a town on its own. It has banks, residential quarters for staff and members wealthy enough to buy. It also has a good network of roads and other utilities. It is the site of the Redeemer's University of Nigeria (RUN) and a secondary school, Christ The Redeemer's School Movement, both owned by the church. Already, the site is a source of friction between the RCCG and Oyakhilome's Christ Embassy.

The latter, which recently set up shop on the expressway, is said to be competing with RCCG for the hearts of the landowners who prefer RCCG which offers greater sums for land acquired.

Aside from its educational institutions, especially its many parishes which run money-spinning day care centres and nursery schools, the church also realises income from Haggai, a community bank established in the 1990s. Yet, there is the Dove Media, a company established to oversee RCCG's television, radio Internet and publishing ventures. Recently, the company announced its arrival on the lucrative Nigerian home video scene, producing films with scriptural themes, using famous secular actors. Many RCCG parishes also run clinics.

Though Adeboye writes books, he is not as prolific as Oyakhilome and Oyedepo. He also appears on television far less frequently than Oyakhilome. But there is no doubting his influence, built on his scandal-free image. He is known as an unofficial adviser of President Obasanjo and was courted, with futility, by the late General Sani Abacha.

Two years ago, a seven-day boat cruise organised by a company owned by Prince Lanre Tejuosho, the wealthy son of Oba Adedapo Tejuosho, the Osile of Oke Ona Egba, had Adeboye on board.

Aside from the royal presence of Oba Tejuosho, the boat which cruised through the Americas also had on board Mr. Felix Ohiwerei, Chairman, Nigerian Breweries PLC; Mr. Babajide Rogers, then Managing Director, Gulf Bank and Mr. Erastus Akingbola, Vice Chairman, Intercontinental Bank Group. Others were the late Chief Debo Akande, a legal luminary, and Mrs. Oluremi Tinubu, wife of Lagos State Governor, Alhaji Bola Tinubu. Adeboye is also known to be close to the wealthy Ibru family. He is regularly seen in the company of Chief Michael Ibru, publisher of The Guardian and his wife, Cecilia, Managing Director, Oceanic Bank plc.

A church source disclosed that through the contributions of members, the church funds its activities, particularly charities. Widows, the in­firm and other economically disadvantaged people are assisted.

But many frown at the wealth in possession of some pastors. Olubunmi Cardinal Okogie, Archbishop of the Lagos Catholic Diocese reckons that the easiest way to make money in Nigeria is by using the Bible. "Why would a pastor give 90 per cent of his time to the body and give only 10 per cent to the soul? I wonder what kind of pastors these are. They have been skinning the flock, taking out of the milk of the flock. They give Greek gifts to their members. They will say I will give you a job without really meaning it. Of course, you must pay tithes, not only on your salary, but outside of it," Okogie rapped.
Last year, the Nigerian Pentecostal circuit was rocked by allegations of fraud over an unsuccessful crusade held by famous American evangelist, Benny Hinn.
He, however, admits that the trend has become noticeable in the non-Pentecostal churches. "As you are talking about Pentecostal churches, we Catholics are also worried People are always talking about money. But money is not everything," he reasoned. Last year, the Nigerian Pentecostal circuit was rocked by allegations of fraud over an unsuccessful crusade held by famous American evangelist, Benny Hinn. The American preacher committed $4 million into the project. The money was handled by a local organising committee headed by Bishop Lanre Obembe of the El-Shaddai Bible Church.

Despite the huge financial outlay, attendance at the crusade was measly. An enraged Hinn did not hide his disappointment. This led to the establishment of a committee to probe the development. The committee, made up of members of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria (PFN), recommended the suspension of Obembe for financial impropriety. Obembe rejected the report, causing another panel to be raised. That also suspended him.

Aside from the unimpressive attendance at the crusade, Hinn also frowned at the decision of the organisers to put his photograph on the poster advertising the crusade. This is the norm in Nigeria, where preachers seem desperate to cultivate box-office profiles and promote themselves rather than God.
Rapu describes this trend as pastors presenting themselves as "surrogate fathers," who see themselves as mediating between their congregation and God. "Pastors, please release the people to God. You are not the Holy Spirit. The superstar and celebrity mentality of the anointed must stop," cautioned Rapu.

However, inviting big name foreign preachers to Nigeria is a big item on the nation's Pentecostal menu. The bigger the name of the foreign preacher, the more it draws crowds and offerings.

Are followers fleeced? May be not. Pentecostal pastors believe they have a divine mandate to free their followers of all afflictions, including poverty. This freedom is contingent upon giving. In an interview with Charisma, Oyedepo said: "Every time I see lack, it haunts me." He also noted that poverty statistics in South Korea went down when a Christian revival swept through the country in the last century.

In a chat with an online journal, Tony Rapu, a former RCCG pastor, said the church in Nigeria is in a mess. Rapu, who now pastors his own congregation known as This Present House, believes that too much emphasis is placed on materialism. He also condemned authoritarianism in the church and the fierce rivalry that inhibits meaningful cooperation between them.

But despite criticisms of their faith, every genuine Pentecostal Christian believes that he or she has a duty to "sow a seed" or give to God. The success of big time pastors inspire the upcoming ones, some of who take to massive frauds. In 2003, an RCCG pastor who worked with a soft drink bottling company, was involved in a fraud amounting to almost
N1billion.

Crime Of Passion! Wife Filed A Rape Charge Against Pastor Ronald Harris Sr. Only After Husband Found Text Messages




 


Crime Of Passion!


Wife Filed A Rape Charge Against Pastor Ronald Harris Sr. Only After
Husband Found Text Messages

A member of the congregation has confirmed that the shooting at Tabernacle of Praise Worship Center was more than likely because the late Pastor Ronald Harris Sr. appear to have been involved with the Shooter’s wife. Church members who asked not to be named are confirming reports that the pastor not only had an ongoing affair with Woodrow Karey’s wife but possibly his daughter as well, which is what led to the shooting.


As more women have come out to make allegations that they have slept with the shooting victim, another member has said that the now deceased pastor had many affairs throughout the congregation.


A church member who asked not to be identified said the pastor was having sex with different women in the Churches parsonage.



“He was sleeping with multiple women at the church parsonage, but he slept with the Deacon’s wife at the Woodrow’s house. This has been going on for a while, so it was only a matter of time before it came out. I Just didn’t think it would come out like this. If you get a man’s daughter pregnant and you sleeping with his wife – then I could see how this happened.”


PimpPreacher.com is trying to confirm that the daughter of Woodrow is in fact pregnant for the late Pastor Harris or another woman is pregnant. Please stay tune to PimpPreacher.com as this story develops.


Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso said during a press conference that the wife of the man accused of shooting Pastor Ronald J. Harris Sr. filed a rape complaint against Harris on Wednesday, two days before he was gunned down at the Tabernacle of Praise church. Mancuso said authorities will subpoena warrants to check phone records between Karey's wife and Harris.


Mancuso said there was a sexual relationship between Harris and Woodrow Karey Jr.'s wife, but couldn't say whether the relationship was consensual.


According to spokeswoman Kim Myers, it happened around 8:20 p.m. at the Tabernacle of Praise Worship Center at 307 Deshotel Lane in Lake Charles.


Myers said Pastor Ronald J. Harris Sr. was shot "as he was preaching."


Woodrow Karey Jr., 53, of Lake Charles, is accused of walking into the church and shooting Harris.


Myers said Harris, of Lake Charles, was pronounced dead at the scene.


Calcasieu Parish Sheriff said Karey shot Harris with a shotgun twice, once when he walked into the church and a second time when Harris fell to the floor. Myers said Karey walked up to him and shot him at close range.



Christian TV host, Rick Joyner, asks God for ‘military takeover’ of Obama’s presidency

 Morning Star TV's Rick Joyner



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Joyner: "Our Only Hope Is A Military Takeover"




Christian TV host asks God for ‘military takeover’ of Obama’s presidency

By David Edwards

Tuesday, October 1, 2013 14:57 EDT
A Christian TV host this week called on God to consider a “military takeover” of President Barack Obama’s government because it could be the only way to save the country from tyranny.

On his Monday Internet broadcast, Morning Star TV’s Rick Joyner predicted that democracy was “doomed” unless the Lord imposed martial law.

“The balance of powers in the legislative and judicial branches were supposed to balance and keep in check, hold in check, the potential tyranny from the executive branch overstepping their bounds,” Joyner explained. “The people are not always right, it depends on what people they are. And another thing the founders warned about is this thing will only work for a moral and a religious people. You remove morality, you remove the religious influence, and it cannot work.”

“We’re headed for serious tyranny, a terrible tyranny right now,” he continued. “But guess what? The kingdom is coming, the Kingdom of God is coming. And America is not the Kingdom of God. I think we have been used in some wonderful and powerful ways by God, we’ve been one of the most generous nations in history. We’ve done so much good.”

“That’s why I appeal to the Lord: Don’t let us be totally destroyed, please raise up those who will save us. And as I’ve been telling friends for a long time, no election is going to get the right person in there because the system is so broken.”

Joyner added that the “only hope is a military takeover, martial law.”

“And that the most crucial element of that is who to the martial [sic] is going to be,” he said. “I believe there are noble leaders in our military that love the republic and love everything we stand for. And they could seize the government.”

Watch this video from Morning Star TV, broadcast Sept. 30, 2013.

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Holy Spirit Directed Me to Write 'Killing Jesus,' says Roman Catholic Bill O'Reilly Says : Oh! Really


  • Killing Jesus: A History by Bill OReilly and Martin Dugard and published by Henry Holt and Co. is available Sept. 24, 2013.
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    "Killing Jesus: A History" by Bill O'Reilly and Martin Dugard and published by Henry Holt and Co. is available Sept. 24, 2013.

"All of the ideas come to me in the middle of the night, and one night, I just woke up and it went, 'Killing Jesus,'" O'Reilly said in an interview on CBS' "60 Minutes" on Saturday.

"And I believe – because I'm a Catholic – that comes from the Holy Spirit. My inspiration comes from that. And so I wrote Killing Jesus because I think I was directed to write that," added O'Reilly in the interview with Norah O'Donnell that will air on Sunday evening.

O'Donnell asked O'Reilly if he thinks he's a chosen one. "I'm just one of many who have been given gifts," replied the anchor of "The O'Reilly Factor." "I can write. I can bloviate on TV. So I'm trying to use the gifts in a positive way. And I believe that's all directed and that's why I'm here on the planet."


O'Reilly said he believes in the Holy Spirit but not like many other Christians. "I'm not a holy roller. I am not an Evangelical Christian, but I go to church," he said, adding if he fails to attend Mass, "Then I fall so far behind in my repentance I can never catch up."


"Jesus Christ has not walked among us physically for more than two thousand years, yet his presence today is felt the world over and his spirit is worshipped by more than 2.2 billion people," O'Reilly stated in a press release earlier. "His teachings, his legacy, his life as a flesh-and-blood man, and his death created the world in which we live."

"Killing Jesus will take readers inside Jesus' life, recounting the seismic political and historical events that made his death inevitable – and changed the world forever," the publisher says.

The new book is a follow-up to O'Reilly's and Dugard's successful books Killing Kennedy and Killing Lincoln. The National Geographic Channel is again partnering with the authors for a television adaptation of Killing Jesus, as was done with their previous two titles.

Some parts of the book contradict the New Testament's accounts of the crucifixion. For example, O'Reilly believes Jesus couldn't have spoken the words, "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do," because the crucifixion wouldn't have allowed enough air in His lungs.

O'Reilly has not referred to Jesus as the Son of God, and he explains, "There's no religion in the book. It's all about history."


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From Roman Catholicism to the Russian Orthodox church but still not saved : Tales of a former Roman catholic : I’m Still Not Going Back to the Catholic Church



I’m Still Not Going Back to the Catholic Church

Pope Francis only confirms my decision to leave

          

It’s not hard to understand why people are so excited about Pope Francis. Since his sensational interview last week, many have said that with his personal warmth and determination to put doctrine in the background, Francis is just the man to bring a lot of fallen-away Catholics back into the church.

Maybe. But I’m an ex-Catholic whose decision to leave the Catholic Church is not challenged by Francis’ words but rather confirmed.

Just over two decades ago, when I began the process to enter the Roman Catholic Church as an adult convert, I chose to receive instruction at a university parish, figuring that the quality of teaching would be more rigorous. After three months of guided meditations and endless God is love lectures, I dropped out.

I agreed that God is love, but that didn’t tell me what He would expect of me if I became a Catholic. Besides, I had spent four years dancing around the possibility of returning to the Christianity of my youth. When I made my first steps back to churchgoing as an adult, I found plenty of good people who told me God is love but who never challenged me to change my life.


What needed changing? Lots. My own brokenness was plain to me, and I was ready to turn from my destructive sins and become a new person. The one thing I didn’t want to do was surrender my sexual liberty, which was my birthright as a young American male. I knew, though, that without fully giving over my will to God, any conversion would be precarious. By then, I was all too wary of my evasions. To convert provisionally — that is, provided that the Church didn’t hassle me about my sex life — would really be about seeking the psychological comforts of religion without making sacrifices.

What I was told, in effect, in that university Catholic parish was that God loved me just as I was — true — but that I didn’t need to do anything else. It dawned on me one day that at the end of this process, all of us in the class would end up as Catholics but have no idea what the Catholic Church taught. I bolted, and a year later, I was received into the church in another parish.

If you know about the Catholic Church only from reading the papers, you are in for a shock once you come inside. The image of American Catholicism shown by the media is of a church preoccupied with sex and abortion. It’s not remotely true. I was a faithful Mass-going Catholic for 13 years, attending a number of parishes in five cities in different parts of the country. I could count on one hand the number of homilies I heard that addressed abortion or sexuality in any way. Rather, the homilies were wholly therapeutic, almost always some saccharine variation of God is love.

Well, yes, He is, but Sunday School simplicities get you only so far. Classical Catholic theology dwells on the paradox of God’s love and God’s justice. As Dante shows in the Divine Comedy, God’s love is God’s justice poured out on those who reject Him. In the Gospels, Jesus offers compassion to sinners rejected by religious rigorists, but he also tells them to reform their lives, to “go forth and sin no more.”

Was I frustrated because the priests wouldn’t preach God’s judgment instead of God’s mercy? By no means. I was frustrated because they wouldn’t preach God’s judgment at all, which is to say, they preached Christ without the Cross. I knew the depths of the sins from which I was being delivered, and it felt wrong to treat His amazing grace like it was a common courtesy. As the reggae song says, “Everybody wants to get to heaven, but nobody wants to die.”

In his recent book about Anglicanism, Our Church, the English philosopher Roger Scruton says the greatest problem in the modern world is the “loss of the habit of repentance.” Broadly speaking, there seemed to me to be no particular interest in the American Catholic church in repentance, because there was no particular interest in the reality of sin. The stereotypical idea of the Catholic Church as a sin-obsessed, legalistic hothouse surely came from somewhere. But for Catholics like me, born in the late 1960s, this cramped and miserable picture of the church may as well have come from antiquity.

The contemporary era of global Catholicism began in 1959, when the newly elected Pope John XXIII sought to “open the windows” of the fusty old Church to the modern world by calling the Second Vatican Council. Three years later, in his opening address to the council, the charismatic and avuncular pope called for “a new enthusiasm, a new joy and serenity of mind in the unreserved acceptance by all of the entire Christian faith,” without compromising on doctrine. A fierce spirit of the age blasted through those newly-opened windows, scouring nearly everything in its path. The coming decades would see a collapse in Catholic catechesis and Catholic discipline. The so-called “spirit of Vatican II” — a perversion of the Council’s actual teaching — justified many subsequent outrages.

In 2002, when the clerical-sex-abuse scandal broke nationwide, the full extent of the rot within the church became manifest. All that post-Vatican II happy talk and non-judgmentalism had been a facade concealing what then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger — later Pope Benedict XVI — would call the “filth” in the church. Many American bishops deployed the priceless Christian language of love and forgiveness in an effort to cover their own foul nakedness in a cloak of cheap grace.

During that excruciating period a decade ago, rage at what I and other journalists uncovered about the church’s corruption pried my ability to believe in Catholic Christianity out of me, like torturers ripping fingernails out with pliers. It wasn’t the crimes that did it as much as the bishops’ unwillingness to repent and the Vatican’s disinterest in holding them to account. If the church’s hierarchy cannot commit itself credibly to justice and mercy to the victims of its own clergy and bishops, I thought, do they really believe in the doctrines they teach?

All this put the moral unseriousness of the American church in a certain light. As the scandal raged, one Ash Wednesday, I attended Mass at my comfortable suburban parish and heard the priest deliver a sermon describing Lent as a time when we should all come to love ourselves more.

If I had to pinpoint a single moment at which I ceased to be a Roman Catholic, it would have been that one. I fought for two more years to hold on, thinking that having the syllogisms from my catechism straight in my head would help me stand firm. But it was useless. By then I was a father, and I did not want to raise my children in a church where sentimentality and self-satisfaction were the point of the Christian life. It wasn’t safe to raise my children in this church, I thought — not because they would be at risk of predators but because the entire ethos of the American church, like the ethos of the decadent post-Christian society in which it lives, is not that we should die to ourselves so that we can live in Christ, as the New Testament demands, but that we should learn to love ourselves more.

Flannery O’Connor, one of my Catholic heroes, famously said, “Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. What people don’t realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course it is the cross.” American Catholicism was not pushing back against the hostile age at all. Rather, it had become a pushover. God is love was not a proclamation that liberated us captives from our sin and despair but rather a bromide and a platitude that allowed us to believe that and to behave as if our lust, greed, malice and so forth — sins that I struggled with every day — weren’t to be despised and cast out but rather shellacked by a river of treacle.

I finally broke. Losing my Catholic faith was the most painful thing that ever happened to me. Today, as much as I admire Pope Francis and understand the enthusiasm among Catholics for him, his interview makes me realize that the good, if incomplete, work that John Paul II and Benedict XVI did to restore the church after the violence of the revolution stands to be undone. Though I agree with nearly everything the Pope said last week in his interview and cheer inwardly when he chastises rigorist knotheads who would deny the healing medicine of the church to anyone, I fear his merciful words will be received not as love but license. The “spirit of Pope Francis” will replace the “spirit of Vatican II” as the rationalization people will use to ignore the difficult teachings of the faith. If so, this Pope will turn out to be like his predecessor John XXIII: a dear man, but a tragic figure.

In his interview, the Pope used a metaphor for the church that is often employed by Eastern Orthodox Christianity: he called it a “field hospital” where the walking wounded can receive treatment. He’s right, but it’s important to discern the nature of the cure on offer. Anesthesia is a kind of medicine that masks pain, but it’s not the kind of medicine that heals the underlying sickness.

There is, of course, no such thing as the perfect church, but in Orthodoxy, which radically resists the moralistic therapeutic deism that characterizes so much American Christianity, I found a soul-healing balance. In my Russian Orthodox country mission parish this past Sunday, the priest preached about love, joy, repentance and forgiveness — in all its dimensions. Addressing parents in the congregation, he exhorted us to be merciful, kind and forgiving toward our children. But he also warned against thinking of love as giving our children what they want as opposed to what they need.

“Giving them what they want may make it easier for us,” he said, “but we must love our children enough to teach them the hard lessons and compel them toward the good.”

True, that. And I cherish this pastor because he loves his people enough to teach us the hard lessons, and to compel us past mediocrity and toward the good. Catholic priests of the same mind and orientation as my Orthodox pastor — and I know many of them — are telling me that the Holy Father, by signaling to his American flock that God is love and the rest doesn’t really matter, just made their mission a lot more difficult. But that is no longer my problem.